ANYONE interested in piggybacking with me to SGC? ALL GRADES POSTED!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Ohhh.....I'm not familiar.....I am thinking SGC lets you combine crossovers with raw card grading?

Yes, you just have to pick crossover on the pulldown menu when ordering.

[Jay Wolt]

Bobby I have 5 oddball that I can send, Thanks!

[Peter_Spaeth]

I hope y'all do better than my recent disaster of a sub through a friend.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I hope y'all do better than my recent disaster of a sub through a friend.

My stuff is vintage non-sport, which I expect Auth, 1, 2's anyway

[Casey2296]

Bobby, I can always add a few more if you come up short to make 50.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

My stuff is vintage non-sport, which I expect Auth, 1, 2's anyway

Much of mine was that, but the cards were high grade and gorgeous. Across the board, two grades lower than expected on average, even with expectations geared to tight grading. And in virtually every case, when I carefully reviewed the cards on return, I saw no plausible reason for the grades. Utter waste of hundreds of dollars.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Much of mine was that, but the cards were high grade and gorgeous. Across the board, two grades lower than expected on average, even with expectations geared to tight grading. And in virtually every case, when I carefully reviewed the cards on return, I saw no plausible reason for the grades. Utter waste of hundreds of dollars.

You subbed with PSA or SGC?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

You subbed with PSA or SGC?

This was an SGC sub. Very recent. Wasted like $700.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Much of mine was that, but the cards were high grade and gorgeous. Across the board, two grades lower than expected on average, even with expectations geared to tight grading. And in virtually every case, when I carefully reviewed the cards on return, I saw no plausible reason for the grades. Utter waste of hundreds of dollars.

This is not directed at you but I bet the most frequent complaint made by submitters is that their stuff was not assessed fairly. Sadly the graders are too arrogant to consider this to ever be an accurate statement and that is flavored by the fact that few collectors pick up flaws that render a card a lower grade while it might appear nicer and even fewer can detect alterations.

The present environment for grading at both PSA and SGC is overly conservative therefore I feel your comment has a great deal of credibility. Being disappointed and feeling like you were just robbed at the ATM is a familiar feeling when grades finalize.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

This is not directed at you but I bet the most frequent complaint made by submitters is that their stuff was not assessed fairly. Sadly the graders are too arrogant to consider this to ever be an accurate statement and that is flavored by the fact that few collectors pick up flaws that render a card a lower grade while it might appear nicer and even fewer can detect alterations.

The present environment for grading at both PSA and SGC is overly conservative therefore I feel your comment has a great deal of credibility. Being disappointed and feeling like you were just robbed at the ATM is a familiar feeling when grades finalize.

Right. I've been submitting cards for about 30 years, since shortly after PSA started. I am admittedly not as good as I could be in catching alterations, but I can grade, and my expectations on this group were conservative in light of the current environment. But many if not most of these grades were ludicrous. Any vintage card has some tiny flaws compared to an ultra modern creation. But to translate some tiny flaw into a two or three grade deduction, I mean eff that. A mint vintage card is not a 6. I never would have spent the money for these holders.