Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

What is on the back of the photo? Anything? Very unusual (and cool) design.

The photo is on the pennant…there is no cut out…thus, I can’t see the back.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

The photo is on the pennant…there is no cut out…thus, I can’t see the back.

Very interesting. As is the “WC” near the upper left corner of the pic. Has that been discussed before? We need Domer to check in. Could this be ASCO/Button House? Mystery company? It is radically different than Trenches from that period.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Very interesting. As is the “WC” near the upper left corner of the pic. Has that been discussed before? We need Domer to check in. Could this be ASCO/Button House? Mystery company? It is radically different than Trenches from that period.

WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

[bocca001]

I'm pretty sure that the WC came up in Kyle's conversation with the Trench guy, which makes it a high likelihood that they are Trench. I guess maybe WC could have had someone else make pennants for them?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I'm pretty sure that the WC came up in Kyle's conversation with the Trench guy, which makes it a high likelihood that they are Trench. I guess maybe WC could have had someone else make pennants for them?

See my post #4847.

WC = West Coast Novelty Co. They ran concessions at several locations in the San Francisco Bay area, including California's Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. They never made pennants; and, as far as I can tell, all of their pennants were produced by Trench.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

[bocca001]

It took me some time to find this pennant (thanks, Erik). When I first saw it in Rob's collection, the colors/tassels made me think it was some kind of modern reproduction. But it is not. And it is tough to find.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

Yes it’s a cloth spine and cloth tassels … very rare for Trench … I will bet that the stitching is “doubled” like that of Ad Flag and Keezer. I’m sure there has to be a name for the type of stitch. There was a brief amount of time that Trench-appearing pennants were made like this. Here’s an example of one of mine with all the same characteristics that I once wondered might be a knock-off …

[thetahat]

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[bocca001]

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

Super interesting how they modeled those names after the 1951 All Star Game pennant and '57-'58 Milwaukee Braves Pennants. That's a 24 - 31 year gap.... Someone must've had an amazing sense of history at the bootleg pennant factory!

https://keymancollectibles.com/penna...tarpennant.htm

http://www.insidetheparkcollectibles...-lot13864.aspx

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

You can tell it's an authentic bootleg as it contains the requisite spelling error.