Hey, pennant guys

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

[bocca001]

It took me some time to find this pennant (thanks, Erik). When I first saw it in Rob's collection, the colors/tassels made me think it was some kind of modern reproduction. But it is not. And it is tough to find.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

Yes it’s a cloth spine and cloth tassels … very rare for Trench … I will bet that the stitching is “doubled” like that of Ad Flag and Keezer. I’m sure there has to be a name for the type of stitch. There was a brief amount of time that Trench-appearing pennants were made like this. Here’s an example of one of mine with all the same characteristics that I once wondered might be a knock-off …

[thetahat]

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[bocca001]

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

Super interesting how they modeled those names after the 1951 All Star Game pennant and '57-'58 Milwaukee Braves Pennants. That's a 24 - 31 year gap.... Someone must've had an amazing sense of history at the bootleg pennant factory!

https://keymancollectibles.com/penna...tarpennant.htm

http://www.insidetheparkcollectibles...-lot13864.aspx

[bocca001]

If they were a Giants fan too, they may have had this one in their collection. They must have copied the design from one of these. There is no way it is a coincidence.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bocca001

If they were a Giants fan too, they may have had this one in their collection. They must have copied the design from one of these. There is no way it is a coincidence.

Nice.... I have always wanted that one, and never snagged one. Couldn't even find an image online. Is that one yours, Marc?

[bocca001]

I wish that was mine. It is somewhere on my wantlist. I know that Oooribay has one.

There was one for sale earlier this year at Hunt? It was more than I was willing to pay. There are two versions. One says world champions, the other pennant winners.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Super interesting how they modeled those names after the 1951 All Star Game pennant and '57-'58 Milwaukee Braves Pennants. That's a 24 - 31 year gap.... Someone must've had an amazing sense of history at the bootleg pennant factory!

https://keymancollectibles.com/penna...tarpennant.htm

http://www.insidetheparkcollectibles...-lot13864.aspx

Mark: I’m not so sure this, like the ones you mention, is not an Ad Flag. They made pennants at least through the early 80s - I have a monstrous looking Pete Rose hitting streak pennant from ‘79 that I buried somewhere. I think I’ve seen an ‘82 Cardinals will all the tell tale signs.

Marc: can you show the stitching on the back? Ad Flag did a good tight stitch - will help to identify

[bocca001]

Here is the spine stitching from the 49ers 1982 pennant.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Here is the spine stitching from the 49ers 1982 pennant.

Not solid proof that it’s them, but it is consistent with Ad Flag. That + the known Ad Flag roster design seems like pretty strong evidence that it is them.

On a related note, Keezer (post 1950) and ASCO also stitched like this. It’s why they don’t suffer from loose threads.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Mark: I’m not so sure this, like the ones you mention, is not an Ad Flag. They made pennants at least through the early 80s - I have a monstrous looking Pete Rose hitting streak pennant from ‘79 that I buried somewhere. I think I’ve seen an ‘82 Cardinals will all the tell tale signs.

Marc: can you show the stitching on the back? Ad Flag did a good tight stitch - will help to identify

It does look kind of Ad Flag-ish….the font, the guy.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

It does look kind of Ad Flag-ish….the font, the guy.

The custodian got named on the pennant?

[karamaxjoe]

What can you guys tell me about this Sox pennant that closed on eBay a few days ago? Except for the condition, it's very visually appealing. The one thing that bothers me is the uniform the player is wearing. It's not consistent.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

You can tell it's an authentic bootleg as it contains the requisite spelling error.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You can tell it's an authentic bootleg as it contains the requisite spelling error.

And why is the A in Champions italicized?