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Old 03-22-2023, 10:37 AM
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The 1913 Chattanooga Lookouts (Class A) with 19-year old pitcher Burleigh Grimes (HOF) (back row 3rd on left) who had a 6-7 record on the year. The "Giant Killer" and ace of the staff, 27-year old Harry Coveleski (back row far left) was 28-9 for the season. Kid Elberfeld (front row center) managed the team to 4th place and an overall 70-64 record.
I'm not saying that it isn't Grimes (3rd from left, back row), but I'm having a hard time seeing how his face changed so much from 1912, when he was with the Austin Bills, to 1913 with Chattanooga. Also, Grimes was only 5'10" tall, and with some guys on the roster standing at 6'2"-6'5" (per statscrew), I would argue that it's one of those guys and not Grimes. Perhaps one of the other fellows is Grimes? Or perhaps he missed the day of the photo shoot? See below for an early image of Grimes with the 1912 Austin Bills:
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I'd have to agree with Derek on this one. I do not recognize Grimes amongst the group.

Furthermore, this post card shows the Lookouts schedule on the reverse which means that it was created prior to the beginning of the season.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/burleigh-grimes/

But this article on sabr.org tells us that:

"(Grimes) started the 1913 season with the Ottumwa (Iowa) Packers of the Central Association, where he was so effective that the Detroit Tigers purchased his contract for $400. After a week the Tigers shipped Grimes to Class A Chattanooga without his ever having put on a Detroit uniform."

Which means that Grimes would not have been present for a pre season photoshoot.
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I'd have to agree with Derek on this one. I do not recognize Grimes amongst the group.

Furthermore, this post card shows the Lookouts schedule on the reverse which means that it was created prior to the beginning of the season.

https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/burleigh-grimes/

But this article on sabr.org tells us that:

"(Grimes) started the 1913 season with the Ottumwa (Iowa) Packers of the Central Association, where he was so effective that the Detroit Tigers purchased his contract for $400. After a week the Tigers shipped Grimes to Class A Chattanooga without his ever having put on a Detroit uniform."

Which means that Grimes would not have been present for a pre season photoshoot.
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That image was surely taken before the 1913 season started and before Grimes was sent from Ottumwa to Chattanooga.
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Here’s a couple of Arkansas cards.
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Here’s a couple of Arkansas cards.
Walter Johnson pitched in that ballpark.
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Walter Johnson pitched in that ballpark.
That’s crazy, he pitched in the ballpark in my old hometown as well. The things you learn! Thanks for that info.
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