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Old 03-17-2023, 04:32 PM
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Was finally able to land a Dummy Hoy card after years of searching for a semi affordable one (!!!).
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Old 03-17-2023, 08:05 PM
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Was finally able to land a Dummy Hoy card after years of searching for a semi affordable one (!!!).
Saw that and was watching it on Ebay. Congrats, nice pickup of a card for a long sought after player.

Was a bit surprised at the final price as well, given the condition of that WG1 playing card. Makes you wonder where it would have ended up if the card was all there. Still a very tough and extremely rare issue you never seem to find for sale/auction.
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Old 03-18-2023, 09:07 AM
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Saw that and was watching it on Ebay. Congrats, nice pickup of a card for a long sought after player.

Was a bit surprised at the final price as well, given the condition of that WG1 playing card. Makes you wonder where it would have ended up if the card was all there. Still a very tough and extremely rare issue you never seem to find for sale/auction.
Thanks Bob, I am pretty excited about it. Hard to know what a card this heavily trimmed is "supposed" to cost. I have seen a few Old Judge Hoys for sale here and there but they have all been in great condition and quite expensive. I figured I wasn't likely to get a better shot at owning a Hoy or a WG1 in any condition, so I just went for it. Will now try to learn more here and elsewhere about this strange set....
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Old 03-18-2023, 10:26 AM
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Some nice additions to my RVA pre war collection. Nice to add these too next to the old mill versions that I already have.
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A sincere thank you to one of the greatest T206 collectors, and gentleman, Sonny T.
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Old 03-18-2023, 09:38 PM
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For those who study Old Judge cards closely, a run of Fa, Fb, and Fc Detroits courtesy the February Heritage auctions (outside of my small pick-up an impressive grouping of OJs not often seen). These Fa & Fb Detroits are 1888 re-issues of 1887 zero numbered cards. While these re-issues are rarely seen they don't seem to command much of a premium as few collect all variations and are happy with the 1887 initial issue. Most Fb Detroits are new poses of new players, but Goodwin also re-issued most if not all the 1887 cards in 1888 as either Fa or Fb.



The Fa cards typically added first and middle initial (L. G. Twitchell in this case) and the Fa type was source of many misspellings (such as Ganzel becoming Gauzel, Weidman becoming G. E. Weichman, etc.).

The Fb card is Ganzel and was a new add to Carto listing for me (hadn't been studied or recorded previously). These re-issues of existing poses haven't been catalogued with same vigor although this would be first example I've seen in decades of close watching.

The Fc card is of Campau which was introduced to N172 set in 1888 with Kansas City and re-issued in 1889 with Detroit. Happy to add this image upgrade of Campau.
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Old 03-19-2023, 07:12 AM
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For those who study Old Judge cards closely, a run of Fa, Fb, and Fc Detroits courtesy the February Heritage auctions (outside of my small pick-up an impressive grouping of OJs not often seen). These Fa & Fb Detroits are 1888 re-issues of 1887 zero numbered cards. While these re-issues are rarely seen they don't seem to command much of a premium as few collect all variations and are happy with the 1887 initial issue. Most Fb Detroits are new poses of new players, but Goodwin also re-issued most if not all the 1887 cards in 1888 as either Fa or Fb.



The Fa cards typically added first and middle initial (L. G. Twitchell in this case) and the Fa type was source of many misspellings (such as Ganzel becoming Gauzel, Weidman becoming G. E. Weichman, etc.).

The Fb card is Ganzel and was a new add to Carto listing for me (hadn't been studied or recorded previously). These re-issues of existing poses haven't been catalogued with same vigor although this would be first example I've seen in decades of close watching.

The Fc card is of Campau which was introduced to N172 set in 1888 with Kansas City and re-issued in 1889 with Detroit. Happy to add this image upgrade of Campau.
Joe I am a novice when it comes to Old Judge, I only have one of a relatively obscure Giant. What do Fa, Fb, and Fc mean in that context?
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Happy to add this image upgrade of Campau.
Nice Campau pickup, Joe! 👍
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