Who is the greatest right handed hitter of all time?

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

Are you really making a case that championships aren’t a good measure of a players quality?

If you look at the list of top 20 players with the most WS rings, 19 of them won all or most of their rings with the Yankees. Only Eddie Collins made the list without the help of being on the Yankees.

No Cobb, Williams, Mays, Aaron, Mathewson, Young, Koufax, Foxx, W Johnson, Clemente, Trout, Bench, Schmidt, Morgan, Seaver, Ryan, etc.

Over half of the top 20 championship ring holders are not even in the HOF. Johnny Murphy who?

Looks to me like you just had to be on the Yankees sometime from the 1930s to the 1950s and collect your rings.

And as far as the OP's question, I'd list, in order:

1. Aaron
2. Mays
3. Foxx
4. Hornsby

Since 'The Greatest' is not a counting stat, it depends on how you weigh certain things like average vs power, peak vs. longevity, runs produced vs on-base percentage, etc. With so many great players, there is no single right answer.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

If you look at the list of top 20 players with the most WS rings, 19 of them won all or most of their rings with the Yankees. Only Eddie Collins made the list without the help of being on the Yankees.

No Cobb, Williams, Mays, Aaron, Mathewson, Young, Koufax, Foxx, W Johnson, Clemente, Trout, Bench, Schmidt, Morgan, Seaver, Ryan, etc.

Over half of the top 20 championship ring holders are not even in the HOF. Johnny Murphy who?

Looks to me like you just had to be on the Yankees sometime from the 1930s to the 1950s and collect your rings.

And as far as the OP's question, I'd list, in order:

1. Aaron
2. Mays
3. Foxx
4. Hornsby

Since 'The Greatest' is not a counting stat, it depends on how you weigh certain things like average vs power, peak vs. longevity, runs produced vs on-base percentage, etc. With so many great players, there is no single right answer.

Thanks for posting the link that you did. As pointed out in the article that goes along with the top 20 list, "Ralph Houk, who only played 91 games in eight seasons, yet is the proud owner of six World Series rings."

[FrankWakefield]

I'd like to see a list that includes rings for coaching and managing... That list is for rings as a player.

Berra and Crosetti would move up the list, I think Frisch would get on the list.

WS rings, MVP awards, and the like, have nothing to do with being the greatest right handed hitter. But I'd still like to see such a list.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

I'd like to see a list that includes rings for coaching and managing... That list is for rings as a player.

Berra and Crosetti would move up the list, I think Frisch would get on the list.

WS rings, MVP awards, and the like, have nothing to do with being the greatest right handed hitter. But I'd still like to see such a list.

"Nothing" is a bit of an over, er, understatement, but if you compare the list of top 10 players by WS rings vs. by career WAR, there's no question which one is the better indication of how good a player one was. Even just looking at who played the most total games does a slightly better job of sorting out the best players than rings does, as the latter is mainly just an indication of who had a nice career with the Yankees in the 20th century.

1. Yogi Berra
2. Joe DiMaggio
3. Bill Dickey
3. Phil Rizzuto
3. Frank Crosetti
3. Lou Gehrig
7. Hank Bauer
7. Mickey Mantle
7. Babe Ruth
7. Johnny Murphy
7. Tommy Henrich
7. Herb Pennock

1. Babe Ruth
2. Walter Johnson
3. Cy Young
4. Barry Bonds
5. Willie Mays
6. Ty Cobb
7. Hank Aaron
8. Roger Clemens
9. Tris Speaker
10. Honus Wagner

1. Pete Rose
2. Carl Yastrzemski
3. Hank Aaron
4. Rickey Henderson
5. Albert Pujols
6. Ty Cobb
7. Eddie Murray
7. Stan Musial
9. Willie Mays
10. Cal Ripken, Jr.