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Old 02-25-2023, 06:35 PM
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For the most part, investors don’t care what may have been done to a card as long as it’s in a PSA Slab with a number grade it’s gold. This is the bottom line of where we are at in 2023.
I don't think that's true. I think they don't know. They assume the TPGs are making sure the cards are not altered.

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Old 02-25-2023, 06:37 PM
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WIth a card like this in that high a grade holder, there really should be a presumption that it's been altered, IMO, even if it may be hard to tell given the expertise of the work.\

BTW I wonder if Dave Forman graded this one personally. I'll leave it at that.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:42 PM
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WIth a card like this in that high a grade holder, there really should be a presumption that it's been altered, IMO, even if it may be hard to tell given the expertise of the work.
Amazing that it got graded. But it sure looks great in that tux!

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Old 02-26-2023, 04:50 PM
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WIth a card like this in that high a grade holder, there really should be a presumption that it's been altered, IMO, even if it may be hard to tell given the expertise of the work.\

BTW I wonder if Dave Forman graded this one personally. I'll leave it at that.
More like Eric was running late for a date and palmed the job off on Hyde
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Old 02-26-2023, 06:16 PM
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A small sugestion, and to some extent BODA is already doing it.

Other hobbies have Censuses, which aren't simply population reports, but are a more and more a visual reference of each known example of a rare item.

I think we really need something like that for most fairly difficult expensive cards.
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For the most part, investors don’t care what may have been done to a card as long as it’s in a PSA Slab with a number grade it’s gold. This is the bottom line of where we are at in 2023.


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I don't think that's true. I think they don't know. They assume the TPGs are making sure the cards are not altered.

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Bbwaa....and that isn't supposed to mean BB writers association of America...

Bbwaa... I guess that's the point, they're trusting the TPGs. Trust'em? Bbwaa...

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Old 02-25-2023, 06:45 PM
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Bbwaa....and that isn't supposed to mean BB writers association of America...



Bbwaa... I guess that's the point, they're trusting the TPGs. Trust'em? Bbwaa...



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Old 02-25-2023, 07:02 PM
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I don't think that's true. I think they don't know. They assume the TPGs are making sure the cards are not altered.

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Very possible but my point is they don't want to know or care to know. It's in a holder end of the discussion for the investor it's good to go.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:36 PM
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Very possible but my point is they don't want to know or care to know. It's in a holder end of the discussion for the investor it's good to go.
That's not true, either. Anyone that is concerned about future value wants to know their card is legit. No "investor" wants to be sitting on a fake.

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Old 02-25-2023, 07:38 PM
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That's not true, either. Anyone that is concerned about future value wants to know their card is legit. No "investor" wants to be sitting on a fake.

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Fake I agree with you....trimmed not so much in a holder they don't care.
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Old 02-25-2023, 07:42 PM
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That's not true, either. Anyone that is concerned about future value wants to know their card is legit. No "investor" wants to be sitting on a fake.

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The buyers of the most famous investment card in the hobby seem to disagree. PSA 8 it might be, but it's been well known pretty much from the start that it ain't unaltered.
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:39 PM
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The buyers of the most famous investment card in the hobby seem to disagree. PSA 8 it might be, but it's been well known pretty much from the start that it ain't unaltered.
Are you just trolling? If you really think the buyer knew (or suspected) the Dimaggio was trimmed, let's hear it.

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Old 02-25-2023, 08:50 PM
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Are you just trolling? If you really think the buyer knew (or suspected) the Dimaggio was trimmed, let's hear it.

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Are you just not reading? People are saying investors don't care if a card is trimmed, not that the buyer of this card knows for a fact it is trimmed.

I understand it is easier to argue against this claim you made up instead, but nobody said it. Try harder.
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Old 02-26-2023, 04:41 AM
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That's ridiculous. The strip that was removed from the left could be used as a shoelace...or belt.
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Old 02-25-2023, 08:44 PM
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That's not true, either. Anyone that is concerned about future value wants to know their card is legit. No "investor" wants to be sitting on a fake.

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They have a 'real' 8.5 slab.
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