Who is the greatest right handed hitter of all time?

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by packs

I really do think there is a case for DiMaggio over Mays and Aaron. Sure, short career and not even 500 homers, but there are very few players better than him. His overall slugging, OPS and OPS+ figures are very close to Mays and Aaron. I do realize Mays and Aaron's longevity are pretty much unsurpassed except for each other. But what a player DiMaggio was behind the raw numbers.

Interesting that all three have the same OPS+. According to OPS+ the winner is Mike Trout, but keep in mind he is still in his prime and his OPS+ could go down. Also the 1960s were a low scoring era. The 30's were higher. I believe one year the NL averaged over 300. For that reason I would go with Aaron. He did it much longer, almost twice as many plate appearances as DiMaggio.

Rank Player (yrs, age) Adjusted OPS+ PA Bats
7 Mike Trout (12, 30) 176 6159 R
8 Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 175 9481 R
Mule Suttles+ (21) 172 3649 R
14 Pete Browning (13) 163 5315 R
Jimmie Foxx+ (20) 163 9677 R
Aaron Judge (7, 30) 163 3161 R
Mark McGwire (16) 163 7660 R
18 Dave Orr (8) 162 3411 R
19 Hank Greenberg+ (13) 159 6098 R
23 Dick Allen (15) 156 7315 R
Frank Thomas+ (19) 156 10075 R
25 Henry Aaron+ (23) 155 13941 R
Joe DiMaggio+ (13) 155 7672 R
Willie Mays+ (23) 155 12545 R

[packs]

DiMaggio missed 3 ultra prime seasons. He was never going to get to 755 home runs but I think it was likely he was going to put up monster numbers for those seasons and probably would have finished with better OPS figures than we're looking at now. He missed his age 28 to 30 seasons, which are typically peak seasons for a player.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by packs

DiMaggio missed 3 ultra prime seasons. He was never going to get to 755 home runs but I think it was likely he was going to put up monster numbers for those seasons and probably would have finished with better OPS figures than we're looking at now. He missed his age 28 to 30 seasons, which are typically peak seasons for a player.

Based on what? He hit 21 homers the year before his military service and then 25 & 20 after.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Based on what? He hit 21 homers the year before his military service and then 25 & 20 after.

He had a 147 OPS+ and then didn't play baseball for three years and had a 142 OPS+ upon his return. I’m also basing it on the fact that he won 2 MVPs before he left and another two seasons after he returned.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If you go by offensive WAR, it's Mays and Aaron.

[tjenkins]

For me it's a tough call between Aaron or Mays but I am leaning a bit towards Hammerin Hank since the post says best hitter and not best all around player.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you go by offensive WAR, it's Mays and Aaron.

Those two were great hitters for a long time.

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[Tabe]

Originally Posted by packs

He had a 147 OPS+ and then didn't play baseball for three years and had a 142 OPS+ upon his return. I’m also basing it on the fact that he won 2 MVPs before he left and another two seasons after he returned.

But the three seasons surrounding his military service were not "monster" seasons. I'm not saying he'd have had bad seasons - just that the evidence suggests they would not have been "monster" seasons.

Dimaggio's MVP in 1947 is a joke and shouldn't be used to make a case for anything. Ted Williams CRUSHED him in everything that year, winning the Triple Crown.

[RCMcKenzie]

There's a bartender in CenLa that swears it's Manny Ramirez.

I told my brother to ask Chatgpt who was better at 2nd base, Horsnby or Altuve, and it equivocated, talking about different eras. I told him to ask it to compare Hornsby and Jose Oquendo, and it begrudgingly admitted that Hornsby was better.

I would say Aaron, although I did not see him in his prime. I saw Kingman hit a homerun in the Astrodome that was unreal. I'd say Kingman or Madlock.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Tabe

But the three seasons surrounding his military service were not "monster" seasons. I'm not saying he'd have had bad seasons - just that the evidence suggests they would not have been "monster" seasons.

Dimaggio's MVP in 1947 is a joke and shouldn't be used to make a case for anything. Ted Williams CRUSHED him in everything that year, winning the Triple Crown.

If you say so. He won the MVP, finished with a 147 OPS+ the next year and then joined the military. He comes back from the military to put up a 142 OPS and wins the MVP the following season.

His career OPS+ is exactly the same as Aaron and Mays so I do believe with three prime seasons he would have surpassed their OPS+.

[FrankWakefield]

Who was the all time best right handed base stealer?

Among right handed players, who was the all time best at hitting home runs?

Among right handed players, who was the all time best at getting on base?

Among all right handed players, who was the best at scoring runs?

Among all right handed players, who was the best at contributing Wins to his team above a replacement level player (WAR)?

Now... get all of that out of your head... And consider the question at hand, who was the best all time right handed hitter? Rogers Hornsby.