The zombie runner rule is now permanent

[Mark17]

Put a clock on the pitcher. If he doesn't deliver within 20 seconds of him getting the ball in his hands, the ump calls a ball and the clock restarts. That's how it works in football with the play clock. Same with batters - make them stay in the box.

It seems to me that people who like the zombie rule see baseball as entertainment mostly, while people (like me) who hate the zombie see baseball more as a continuous, ongoing history.

[JollyElm]

Better yet, start extra innings with the bases loaded and blindfold the pitcher and make him pitch underhanded!! Or, how about eliminating the pitcher altogether and putting the ball on a tee?? Or, if it's entertainment baseball 'fans' want, how about just having all extra innings pitched by the botox-addicted ladies from one of the 'Real Housewives of...' shows?? That fits in perfectly with traditional baseball, right???

It saddens me to no end that there are people out there who actually think the pathetic zombie rule is a good thing.

[Jim65]

It doesn't happen enough for me to get worked up about it or feel its ruining the game. It definitely adds a different strategy, which makes extra innings a bit more interesting.

[Snapolit1]

Hate to be the one to break the news, but baseball is an entertainment product and not a religion. To some degree it has to adapt to changing societal norms.

Though even the church has to adapt. My mom loves watching mass on her iPad from around the country every Sunday.

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Hate to be the one to break the news, but baseball is an entertainment product and not a religion.

Well that statement is sacrilegious!

If they want to shorten the game, then why not just call it a tie? And maybe give everyone can get a participation trophy?

[1952boyntoncollector]

I hate the NL DH and I hate getting rid of the shift but i like the extra inning rules a lot....18 inning marathons with people playing out of position is silly.

people get credit for winning hits when hit it over the head of a pitcher playing outfield or getting a hit off a fielder?

in soccer they got penalty kicks.... ...heck i would be ok with a home run derby in extra innings after the 12th inning or something..

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Better yet, start extra innings with the bases loaded and blindfold the pitcher and make him pitch underhanded!! Or, how about eliminating the pitcher altogether and putting the ball on a tee?? Or, if it's entertainment baseball 'fans' want, how about just having all extra innings pitched by the botox-addicted ladies from one of the 'Real Housewives of...' shows?? That fits in perfectly with traditional baseball, right???

It saddens me to no end that there are people out there who actually think the pathetic zombie rule is a good thing.

I know change is hard for you, Darren.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I know change is hard for you, Darren.

Ridiculously stupid change is hard for any normal person.

[DFWGrapher]

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

[jayshum]

I think the limit on pitchers being allowed to step off the rubber or throw to a base only twice during an at bat is a much more impactful change than the runner on second in extra innings. The ghost runner only happens in a small percentage of games while the limits on pitchers will every inning that a runner gets on base.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I think the limit on pitchers being allowed to step off the rubber or throw to a base only twice during an at bat is a much more impactful change than the runner on second in extra innings. The ghost runner only happens in a small percentage of games while the limits on pitchers will every inning that a runner gets on base.

I agree. This, combined with the larger base sizes, will open up the running game some. The bases will be 6 inches closer, which may help a bit, but also will be easier to stay on after the slide.

Just for clarity, you can step off or throw to a base twice without penalty. You can then throw a third time, but need to get the runner out, or else he advances.

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[Carter08]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

I like the new rule as is but this would be great as well.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

I would be ok with something like this where the first few extra innings where normal then some type of runner was added automatically. I'm not sure I would want to see more than a runner on second to start the inning, but I do like the description provided for innings 19+

[mrreality68]

The game is always evolving regardless if we want to or not.

Think about the changes over the years from no Dh, to DH in 1 league, to now in both
# of games played during the regular season
# of teams to make playoffs
Different Playoff Formats
Bigger Bases
Pitching time clock
Ghost Runner
Video Replay
and so much more

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first. IF zombie bites first basemen then 2 zombies
Inning 14: zombie runner at second. Zombie can bite the SS or 2b, if can bite both its a different type of double play
Inning 15: zombie runner at third. (the third basemen watching the 'double play' earlier may elect for a new 'shift' so he can stand over in the shallow outfield or the other side of 2nd, but geez they got RID of the shift? Did they know getting rid of the shift will cause more zombie runners)
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second (probably nobody playing defense now)
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third (ditto)
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third (ditto)
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

Yes the bases loaded and the entire field is now loaded with zombies who were unable to 'shift' The DH will be the most safest position as he does not have to play the field...

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Ridiculously stupid change is hard for any normal person.

As are ridiculously stupid hot takes

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[steve B]

What many don't seem to realize is that not all change is good.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by steve B

What many don't seem to realize is that not all change is good.

I don’t like some changes like bringing the DH to the NL but I like this one.