The zombie runner rule is now permanent

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

I know change is hard for you, Darren.

Ridiculously stupid change is hard for any normal person.

[DFWGrapher]

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

[jayshum]

I think the limit on pitchers being allowed to step off the rubber or throw to a base only twice during an at bat is a much more impactful change than the runner on second in extra innings. The ghost runner only happens in a small percentage of games while the limits on pitchers will every inning that a runner gets on base.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I think the limit on pitchers being allowed to step off the rubber or throw to a base only twice during an at bat is a much more impactful change than the runner on second in extra innings. The ghost runner only happens in a small percentage of games while the limits on pitchers will every inning that a runner gets on base.

I agree. This, combined with the larger base sizes, will open up the running game some. The bases will be 6 inches closer, which may help a bit, but also will be easier to stay on after the slide.

Just for clarity, you can step off or throw to a base twice without penalty. You can then throw a third time, but need to get the runner out, or else he advances.

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[Carter08]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

I like the new rule as is but this would be great as well.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first.
Inning 14: zombie runner at second.
Inning 15: zombie runner at third.
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

I would be ok with something like this where the first few extra innings where normal then some type of runner was added automatically. I'm not sure I would want to see more than a runner on second to start the inning, but I do like the description provided for innings 19+

[mrreality68]

The game is always evolving regardless if we want to or not.

Think about the changes over the years from no Dh, to DH in 1 league, to now in both
# of games played during the regular season
# of teams to make playoffs
Different Playoff Formats
Bigger Bases
Pitching time clock
Ghost Runner
Video Replay
and so much more

[Snapolit1]

I've yet to hear the issue with the size of bases requiring a new base size.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I've yet to hear the issue with the size of bases requiring a new base size.

I thought the impetus behind MLB increasing the size of the bases was so that fielders, especially first basemen, wouldn't have their feet in the way of baserunners during plays, and thus further reduce the chances of player injuries from tripping or being stepped on during game play. You do occasionally see a first baseman get his foot stepped on, or the baserunner tripping over the first baseman's foot, while trying to beat out a close play at first base and/or grabbing a somewhat errant throw to first base. Of all the more recent rule changes, this is one I can most live with as it seems to be solely about reducing player injuries, and has virtually no real effect or impact on the game itself otherwise. The worst thing it does is reduce the distance between bases by no more than few inches. I can easily live with that if it does help to reduce player injuries.

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by BobC

I thought the impetus behind MLB increasing the size of the bases was so that fielders, especially first basemen, wouldn't have their feet in the way of baserunners during plays, and thus further reduce the chances of player injuries from tripping or being stepped on during game play. You do occasionally see a first baseman get his foot stepped on, or the baserunner tripping over the first baseman's foot, while trying to beat out a close play at first base and/or grabbing a somewhat errant throw to first base. Of all the more recent rule changes, this is one I can most live with as it seems to be solely about reducing player injuries, and has virtually no real effect or impact on the game itself otherwise. The worst thing it does is reduce the distance between bases by no more than few inches. I can easily live with that if it does help to reduce player injuries.

That's exactly it...and it'll come into play at 2B for when an middle infielder is turning a double play...a bit more room for runner and fielder to avoid each other.

Some people mention it having an affect on base stealing ("bases are 2 inches closer together", "more base to grab") but I'd expect that to be pretty minimal, especially in comparison to other changes like the limit on throws over to 1B.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by DFWGrapher

I want a hybrid of it.

Innings 10-12: play like normal, as something like 80% of all extra inning games prior to the zombie runner rule still ended in 10, 11, or 12 and should only tack on an extra hour, tops. If still tied...

Inning 13: zombie runner at first. IF zombie bites first basemen then 2 zombies
Inning 14: zombie runner at second. Zombie can bite the SS or 2b, if can bite both its a different type of double play
Inning 15: zombie runner at third. (the third basemen watching the 'double play' earlier may elect for a new 'shift' so he can stand over in the shallow outfield or the other side of 2nd, but geez they got RID of the shift? Did they know getting rid of the shift will cause more zombie runners)
Inning 16: zombie runners at first and second (probably nobody playing defense now)
Inning 17: zombie runners at first and third (ditto)
Inning 18: zombie runners at second and third (ditto)
Inning 19+: zombie apocalypse: bases loaded

Yes the bases loaded and the entire field is now loaded with zombies who were unable to 'shift' The DH will be the most safest position as he does not have to play the field...

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Ridiculously stupid change is hard for any normal person.

As are ridiculously stupid hot takes

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[steve B]

What many don't seem to realize is that not all change is good.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by steve B

What many don't seem to realize is that not all change is good.

I don’t like some changes like bringing the DH to the NL but I like this one.