Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Thanks Greg. That's great info about the Trench teams pennants.

I checked my Cubs power pennant and it's actually in red. I posted it here when I got it. (I need to think better of posting to the forum at 2am).

https://net54baseball.com/showpost.p...postcount=6165

Yes that Cubs pennant was made in both red and white.

I actually thought the version with the entire team was harder to find, but I wouldn’t know that for certain. They are all pretty tough.

[thetahat]

From the Sliding Runner Pennant Co., Inc

Been looking for this for a long long long time, Mark has one and I have never seen one since. I know of five similar pennants from this company, with League Champions written inside a banner graphic:

1948 Braves
1948 Indians
1950 Phillies
1950 Yankees
???? Dodgers

Are there any others? ‘51 Giants? Undated Yankees?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

From the Sliding Runner Pennant Co., Inc

Been looking for this for a long long long time, Mark has one and I have never seen one since. I know of five similar pennants from this company, with League Champions written inside a banner graphic:

1948 Braves
1948 Indians
1950 Phillies
1950 Yankees
???? Dodgers

Are there any others? ‘51 Giants? Undated Yankees?

Never seen anything like that. Do you have pictures of the others?

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Never seen anything like that. Do you have pictures of the others?

I think these are the 1948 Indians, 1950 Phillies and the 1950 Yankees

If anyone has a photo of the Braves, I'd love to see it.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I think these are the 1948 Indians, 1950 Phillies and the 1950 Yankees

If anyone has a photo of the Braves, I'd love to see it.

Yes top two are mine. Here’s all four plus a Phillies in white (don’t know if others have different colored versions).

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

From the Sliding Runner Pennant Co., Inc

Greg, with regards to the Sliding Runner Pennants....I understood that this Red Sox was by AdFlag. The Dodgers Sliding Runner looks to be the same. Are they all AdFlag.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Greg, with regards to the Sliding Runner Pennants....I understood that this Red Sox was by AdFlag. The Dodgers Sliding Runner looks to be the same. Are they all AdFlag.

Gary, that’s all the same company. They had a unique way of sewing together spines from two different … spools … or whatever you call it. Like if they come to the end of one they just start another mid pennant without breaking the stitch. Here’s a Phillies from the same company.

Now that you mentioned it … could these all be early Ad Flags? I strongly doubt it. They do share the same stitching style, sans tassels. But these are a tiny bit smaller (26-27”) and generally better quality than Ad Flag whose artists seemed plucked out of middle school art class and are often cut weird. The very old Ad Flags though were not as bad. I think the maroon Braves pictured below is an Ad Flag, in comparison to the blue one which seems to be from the Sliding Runner Co.

Kyle (Domer) might have a better feel for this.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Gary, that’s all the same company. They had a unique way of sewing together spines from two different … spools … or whatever you call it. Like if they come to the end of one they just start another mid pennant without breaking the stitch. Here’s a Phillies from the same company.

Now that you mentioned it … could these all be early Ad Flags? I strongly doubt it. They do share the same stitching style, sans tassels. But these are a tiny bit smaller (26-27”) and generally better quality than Ad Flag whose artists seemed plucked out of middle school art class and are often cut weird. The very old Ad Flags though were not as bad. I think the maroon Braves pictured below is an Ad Flag, in comparison to the blue one which seems to be from the Sliding Runner Co.

Kyle (Domer) might have a better feel for this.

It wasn't ADFLAG. Your "mystery maker" was, most probably, a company we've never once discussed (I think) on this thread. Which baffles my mind; because this maker made a lot of baseball and football pennants in the 1940s and 50s. So many, I was certain it was a maker we've studied extensively. Not so....

We were, however, correct about this mystery maker's location. We speculated that, based upon the volume of New York team pennants associated with their designs, they were based in New York City. This, it seems, we got right.

Your mystery maker behind such legendary pennant series as "the sliding runner" and "the Heisman" is, I believe, the Epstein Novelty Co., 130 Park Row, N.Y.C.

I'm gonna let that sink in for now ... then come back later with proof.

Stay tuned.

[ooo-ribay]

Get your popcorn ready!

[bocca001]

Every time one of those football runner pennants shows up on ebay, I click on the link to see if there is a label or stamp. As many of you know, that design was used for high school, college, and pro teams. There are so many, but never (from my experience) a label. After Kyle posted about Epstein, a quick Worthpoint search yielded one with a clear label. Really cool. They also have a pennant with a kicker design (although not the super common kicker design, which I think Kyle has attributed to Trench). This Fordham pennant has an Epstein label too.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

It wasn't ADFLAG. Your "mystery maker" was, most probably, a company we've never once discussed (I think) on this thread. Which baffles my mind; because this maker made a lot of baseball and football pennants in the 1940s and 50s. So many, I was certain it was a maker we've studied extensively. Not so....

We were, however, correct about this mystery maker's location. We speculated that, based upon the volume of New York team pennants associated with their designs, they were based in New York City. This, it seems, we got right.

Your mystery maker behind such legendary pennant series as "the sliding runner" and "the Heisman" is, I believe, the Epstein Novelty Co., 130 Park Row, N.Y.C.

I'm gonna let that sink in for now ... then come back later with proof.

Stay tuned.

YES!!! Mystery Solved!

“Dear Mr. Kotter, Please excuse Juan from school today. He’s busy making pennants. Signed, Epstein’s Mom.”

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by thetahat

YES!!! Mystery Solved!

“Dear Mr. Kotter, Please excuse Juan from school today. He’s busy making pennants. Signed, Epstein’s Mom.”

I was thinking along the lines of former Senators' slugger, Mike Epstein. Perhaps he got into baseball because Dad already had the pennants covered.