eBay's Authenticity Guarantee Rejection - Am I missing something here?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It is new to cards but eBay has been authenticating other items for over 2 years without any fee for the service. I see it as staying a free thing for buyers.

I would be willing to bet a soda that eventually eBay charges for this service. I think there is a 98% chance... They don't do anything that won't make them more money. My guess, and it's only a guess, is they are still evaluating how much they can charge, if they can charge for it at all. If they can't, I see the program going away.

and cards

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[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

I would be willing to bet a soda that eventually eBay charges for this service. I think there is a 98% chance... They don't do anything that won't make them more money. My guess, and it's only a guess, is they are still evaluating how much they can charge, if they can charge for it at all. If they can't, I see the program going away.

and cards

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Well....I hate to break it to them, but Ebay isn't the only place to sell cards. I bet Lee, Al, Scott, and a slew of others would love to pick up the slack.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Leon

I would be willing to bet a soda that eventually eBay charges for this service. I think there is a 98% chance... They don't do anything that won't make them more money. My guess, and it's only a guess, is they are still evaluating how much they can charge, if they can charge for it at all. If they can't, I see the program going away.

and cards

.

I'll take that bet. Everybody has their own crystal ball, but my guess is this is already a success for ebay, for a couple reasons. It's probably a lot easier and a lot cheaper to manage their fake card problem this way than before. I expect they used to spend a lot of time and money chasing down sellers for refunds for the fakes they sold, and trying to decide disputes when the seller said they sent a card and the buyer said they didn't get it, or got something not as described. They compensated buyers in many cases even when they couldn't collect from the sellers. I don't know how high a cost that ebay had for fraud, but I am sure it was a lot.

I also expect that ebay is making more money now because transaction volume has likely gone up. Buyers and sellers both can have more confidence that large transactions are legit, which should result in more items put up for sale, and more bidding on them.

Ebay fees are too high already. They need to continue to look at ways to be more efficient, so they can start taking their fees down. Paying a 15% transaction cost on card sales is ridiculous, it suppresses the market. I think many of us would put more cards up for sale if fees were lower. I don't see ebay raising their fees again.

[etsmith]

I find it interesting that everyone complains on here about all the fakes on eBay and yet when eBay tries to do something about it they complain about that too. I think some people in here just like to complain, period.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by etsmith

I find it interesting that everyone complains on here about all the fakes on eBay and yet when eBay tries to do something about it they complain about that too. I think some people in here just like to complain, period.

Hey Ed, you weren't complaining about people complaining were you?

What would happen if ebay began encapsulating cards for a nominal charge. What if they only deemed the card either A (Authentic) or AA (Authentic Altered). Once it's in one of their holders, it's good to go for any sale on ebay. Would people be interested in something like that? That would be assuming they actually had people examining the stuff that had a clue about it.

[JamesGallo]

I hate this program with all my being. I see it as a waste of time and money. Takes over twice as long to get my item. Who is this supposed to protect the 1% that knows knowing about what they are buying and somehow gets taken.
This is just another example of someone not thinking and just providing a service that no one really needs. I would rather protection from the idiots that way over grade raw cards or that don't mention damage and expect you to see it from the horrible pictures.

If this protection was just for higher value cards I would see it as more logicial say couple grand or more, but the cap is way to low.

James G

[notfast]

Every post about this program has people bitching. People HAVE to have things immediately in this amazon world.

This program is great for sellers. Once item is authenticated, likelihood of returns drops massively. I haven’t sold on ebay for years but have started again since they started this program.

As a buyer, I have no issues either. Why wouldn’t you want someone checking to verify there isn’t hidden damage or something the seller missed? I’ll take this all day for a few days of extra waiting. Much easier than getting something that wasn’t as described and then going through the return process.

[Leon]

When I think everyone is wrong, I generally look in the mirror. Just sayin'
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Originally Posted by notfast

Every post about this program has people bitching. People HAVE to have things immediately in this amazon world.

This program is great for sellers. Once item is authenticated, likelihood of returns drops massively. I haven’t sold on ebay for years but have started again since they started this program.

As a buyer, I have no issues either. Why wouldn’t you want someone checking to verify there isn’t hidden damage or something the seller missed? I’ll take this all day for a few days of extra waiting. Much easier than getting something that wasn’t as described and then going through the return process.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

I hate this program with all my being. I see it as a waste of time and money. Takes over twice as long to get my item. Who is this supposed to protect the 1% that knows knowing about what they are buying and somehow gets taken.
This is just another example of someone not thinking and just providing a service that no one really needs. I would rather protection from the idiots that way over grade raw cards or that don't mention damage and expect you to see it from the horrible pictures.

If this protection was just for higher value cards I would see it as more logicial say couple grand or more, but the cap is way to low.

James G

I would guess the 1% number really represents the amount of people that could spot a well done altered card or a good fake slab with a real flip.

Originally Posted by notfast

Every post about this program has people bitching. People HAVE to have things immediately in this amazon world.

This program is great for sellers. Once item is authenticated, likelihood of returns drops massively. I haven’t sold on ebay for years but have started again since they started this program.

As a buyer, I have no issues either. Why wouldn’t you want someone checking to verify there isn’t hidden damage or something the seller missed? I’ll take this all day for a few days of extra waiting. Much easier than getting something that wasn’t as described and then going through the return process.

I feel the same way. I never sold higher end cards on eBay before because of all the problems that can happen. Now I would have no problem with doing it because of this amazing program.


This program has been going on with sneakers for a little over 2 years. You used to be able to spot a lot of fake Nike sneakers on eBay. Now not so much so it is working very well.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by notfast

This program is great for sellers.

For experienced sellers who list things honestly, correctly and to the best of their ability, maybe not so much. Not everyone needs a pair of half-flat training wheels or an inept Big Brother watching over their transactions.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by JamesGallo

I hate this program with all my being. I see it as a waste of time and money.

James, it will be okay. It's just a trading card site, it's not worth it getting worked up about it. Try to think about something else.

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