Hey, pennant guys

[thetahat]

Domer … these two pennants seem to be of the same year and same maker. Wouldn’t this suggest a company besides Trench? The scroll graphic is so radically different from what we know to be Trench.

[thetahat]

Used the extended weekend to add these to the basement gallery. They cover a food pantry, I did have 1980s pennants on them that I didn’t mind cutting up. Anyway, most of these are from the “sliding runner” pennant company - one that doesn’t get enough love in my opinion. Some of their graphics are actually pretty cool and they gave us the full body roster pennant.

It would actually be a cool display to have the sliding runner pennant for all 16 teams, but I don’t think I’ve seen it for either the Tigers or Pirates. (I have seen it for the IL Orioles.)

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Domer … these two pennants seem to be of the same year and same maker. Wouldn’t this suggest a company besides Trench? The scroll graphic is so radically different from what we know to be Trench.

The bottom one from '51 featuring the double-wide scroll, in my opinion, was likely made by AMCO. They made a similar one for the '49 Dodgers.

The top one is a bit of an anomaly.... It could be from '51; but I don't think we can completely rule out '54 either (having said that, I can't recall seeing a Cleveland Indians AL champs mate/variant, can you?). As you know, my opinion is that Trench made this "insert stadium name series" throughout the 1940s and 50s. I based that opinion on two important characteristics in them: they were all 8" x 26"; and they were polychromatic. Unfortunately, this NY Giant pennant is full size and monochrome.... So, I'm reluctant to label it as being made by Trench.

Perhaps it was a knock off? If so, a knock off by AMCO? That might explain why the "NEW YORK" letter scripts look so similar. Or, was the concessioner at the Polo Grounds only interested in buying full size, one color pennants from Trench?? I have no idea.

But it's an interesting pennant.

[ooo-ribay]

Would you guys guess this pennant was originally white? It's a shame it's so hammered. Very unique look. If I were a D**gers guy, I mught have to try a little "restoration."

[perezfan]

It was once blue. It would not have a white spine against white cloth. And the blue cloth on pennants of this era is notorious for fading to that drab brownish grey color.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Would you guys guess this pennant was originally white? It's a shame it's so hammered. Very unique look. If I were a D**gers guy, I mught have to try a little "restoration."

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair. Still, the artwork is terrific.

Rick
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[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair. Still, the artwork is terrific.

Rick

The artwork is terrific. I wonder who made it?

[ooo-ribay]

I just picked up (and probably overpaid for) a 3/4 version of the LH batter and bridge. Being only 3" shorter, this is really the 9/10th version . Again, the 9/10th version has a different "F" than is ever seen on the full size versions.

[ooo-ribay]

I also just picked up this little "chrome" charm to go with the "bronze-ish" pin I already had. This is the same Giant seen on various NY and SF pennants.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I just picked up (and probably overpaid for) a 3/4 version of the LH batter and bridge. Being only 3" shorter, this is really the 9/10th version . Again, the 9/10th version has a different "F" than is ever seen on the full size versions.

There are also subtle differences in the bridge cables, significant enough to suggest a different screen.

[brad15]

All it needs is for someone to perform an addatiptomy.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by brad15

All it needs is for someone to perform an addatiptomy.

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

[perezfan]

I've often contemplated the same about identical screened images that vary in size. How did 1960s technology handle that?

Kyle?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

Was wondering the same about addatiptomy.

Something along the lines of add a tip to my bill?

[brad15]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

the blue Dodger pennant just needs tip replacement.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

I thought an addatiptomy was hilarious. And converting to a fishtail tip may be perfect. But I will probably just leave it as is. I think a lot of the early LA pennants were bootlegs or made in small numbers. I plan on putting together a post on 3 I have that I believe were just ordered up by the Dodgers for special events in 1957-58 and not available for purchase.

Rick

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair.

Rick

“Fishtail” cut?

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by Domer05

The bottom one from '51 featuring the double-wide scroll, in my opinion, was likely made by AMCO. They made a similar one for the '49 Dodgers.

The top one is a bit of an anomaly.... It could be from '51; but I don't think we can completely rule out '54 either (having said that, I can't recall seeing a Cleveland Indians AL champs mate/variant, can you?). As you know, my opinion is that Trench made this "insert stadium name series" throughout the 1940s and 50s. I based that opinion on two important characteristics in them: they were all 8" x 26"; and they were polychromatic. Unfortunately, this NY Giant pennant is full size and monochrome.... So, I'm reluctant to label it as being made by Trench.

Perhaps it was a knock off? If so, a knock off by AMCO? That might explain why the "NEW YORK" letter scripts look so similar. Or, was the concessioner at the Polo Grounds only interested in buying full size, one color pennants from Trench?? I have no idea.

But it's an interesting pennant.

Here’s the back of the Cindarella Boys, it’s sealed so I don’t want to take it out. The tassels are identical to that of the orange: thick and gray. Here also is the 1950 Phillies which is also full-size, along with a known 1950 Trench. They just seem so radically different in style.

Yes, interesting pennant and discussion indeed …