Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

Would you guys guess this pennant was originally white? It's a shame it's so hammered. Very unique look. If I were a D**gers guy, I mught have to try a little "restoration."

[perezfan]

It was once blue. It would not have a white spine against white cloth. And the blue cloth on pennants of this era is notorious for fading to that drab brownish grey color.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Would you guys guess this pennant was originally white? It's a shame it's so hammered. Very unique look. If I were a D**gers guy, I mught have to try a little "restoration."

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair. Still, the artwork is terrific.

Rick
1959 (5).jpg

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair. Still, the artwork is terrific.

Rick

The artwork is terrific. I wonder who made it?

[ooo-ribay]

I just picked up (and probably overpaid for) a 3/4 version of the LH batter and bridge. Being only 3" shorter, this is really the 9/10th version . Again, the 9/10th version has a different "F" than is ever seen on the full size versions.

[ooo-ribay]

I also just picked up this little "chrome" charm to go with the "bronze-ish" pin I already had. This is the same Giant seen on various NY and SF pennants.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I also just picked up this little "chrome" charm to go with the "bronze-ish" pin I already had. This is the same Giant seen on various NY and SF pennants.

Fascinating to see an entire run of these little gumball pins for the original 16 franchises--I guess they're gumball issues, not sure if anybody's proved that--pop up on eBay, a collection that had to take a while for somebody to put together. Quite hard to come by, as are their metal twins as shown. Love this kind of oddball stuff.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I just picked up (and probably overpaid for) a 3/4 version of the LH batter and bridge. Being only 3" shorter, this is really the 9/10th version . Again, the 9/10th version has a different "F" than is ever seen on the full size versions.

There are also subtle differences in the bridge cables, significant enough to suggest a different screen.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by thetahat

There are also subtle differences in the bridge cables, significant enough to suggest a different screen.

That’s the weird thing….you would think they somehow would have “shrunk” the screen. Not sure how they would have done that in the 1960s but I’m remembering those overhead projectors from elementary school….

[brad15]

All it needs is for someone to perform an addatiptomy.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by brad15

All it needs is for someone to perform an addatiptomy.

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

[perezfan]

I've often contemplated the same about identical screened images that vary in size. How did 1960s technology handle that?

Kyle?

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I've often contemplated the same about identical screened images that vary in size. How did 1960s technology handle that?

Kyle?

I dunno. I wasn't born 'til the 1980s

Nah, I think the sizing was all done in the darkroom when the pen + ink drawing of the original artwork was translated from paper to transparency. I'm a little confused as to how the old timers did this, but I think they took a photograph of the drawing; created a negative thereof; then developed the image into a positive on transparent paper that was whatever size they desired?

When I make a pennant, I usually draw my artwork on paper; scan it; then print the scan directly on to transparent paper specially designed for an ink jet printer. I'll then place that printed transparency atop my emulsion coated screen, expose it to UV light, then wash it out. If all goes right, I'm left with a stencil capable of reproducing the crisp details of my intended design.

[rlevy]

Let me preface this post by saying that I know less about pennants than most (if not all) of you on this thread. To me, the history of the event or time period the pennant is tied to is more important than the pennant’s aesthetics, and I like finding photos that picture specific pennants I have in my collection. I believe I have 2 early 1957-58 LA Dodger pennants that were made up for special events and not sold publicly. I also have a third pennant that also dates to a 1958 event, but I am unsure if it was also sold to the public.

here is the first one, I will post the other 2 later.

A huge civic welcoming luncheon honors the Dodgers on Oct 28, 1957 at the Statler Hotel in Los Angeles. Pictures of the event are below, and show a huge room filled with tables and mostly men in suits, and pennants like the one pictured below appear to be the centerpieces on each table. There is also a picture of O’Malley with people waving the pennants around him.
1957 welcome dinner.jpg
1957 welcome dinner 2.jpg
1957 welcome dinner 3.jpg


The pennant measures approximately 12” x 18” and is screen printed. There is no spine, the pennant was stapled to a small stick instead. The city of LA organized the event and I imagine they wanted to keep costs down, which probably resulted in the smaller size and lack of a spine being sewn on. In addition, the luncheon was only a couple of weeks after Walter O’Malley announced the team would move there from Brooklyn, so time could have also been a factor in the simplicity of the construction. Given the number apparently produced for the event, it is somewhat surprising to me that this pennant doesn’t appear for sale very often. The only other one I have seen lately came from the Vin Scully collection.

Rick

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

Was wondering the same about addatiptomy.

Something along the lines of add a tip to my bill?

[brad15]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

the blue Dodger pennant just needs tip replacement.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by brad15

the blue Dodger pennant just needs tip replacement.

Aha. Should've figured that one out.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by brad15

the blue Dodger pennant just needs tip replacement.

Ahhhh! I thought maybe it was a procedure for the Giant’s comically small head.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

What’s “it”? What’s an “addatiptomy”?

I thought an addatiptomy was hilarious. And converting to a fishtail tip may be perfect. But I will probably just leave it as is. I think a lot of the early LA pennants were bootlegs or made in small numbers. I plan on putting together a post on 3 I have that I believe were just ordered up by the Dodgers for special events in 1957-58 and not available for purchase.

Rick

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

I thought an addatiptomy was hilarious. And converting to a fishtail tip may be perfect. But I will probably just leave it as is. I think a lot of the early LA pennants were bootlegs or made in small numbers. I plan on putting together a post on 3 I have that I believe were just ordered up by the Dodgers for special events in 1957-58 and not available for purchase.

Rick

Looking forward to that!

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Here is a different version with better color that I picked up pretty cheaply as it was torn in 3 places and had the missing tip. I did glue the tears so it looks a little nicer, but the tip is beyond repair.

Rick

“Fishtail” cut?