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Old 12-15-2022, 05:44 PM
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Someone here now, who's here 10 years from now, please dig this thread out of the past...

The card with the most gain in value will be the white border tobacco cards of Ty Cobb, his portrait with that green background. That card will see the greatest price change. Cobb's T206 green portrait.

Ten years from now, do the math, that'll be the card. There will be more collectors then, many of them chasing cards of Hall of Famers from their playing days. And that will lead to collecting all 4 of his T206 cards, and that will push this card the most.
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Old 12-18-2022, 12:43 AM
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Someone here now, who's here 10 years from now, please dig this thread out of the past...

The card with the most gain in value will be the white border tobacco cards of Ty Cobb, his portrait with that green background. That card will see the greatest price change. Cobb's T206 green portrait.

Ten years from now, do the math, that'll be the card. There will be more collectors then, many of them chasing cards of Hall of Famers from their playing days. And that will lead to collecting all 4 of his T206 cards, and that will push this card the most.
I wouldn't place my bets on Ty Cobb, considering the current social climate and where things seem to be heading. Debates aside about whether or not he was indeed a racist, and please let's not turn this into a debate about how we feel about the matter, the fact remains that there has been and continues to be a push to erase or suppress historical figures who are broadly viewed as racists. Whether he indeed was or was not, the fact remains that he is indeed viewed as such by the majority. And just like the statues of guys like Thomas Jefferson were torn down, I suspect it's only a matter of time until guys like Ty Cobb and Cap Anson fall victim to these behaviors and beliefs as well.

I would wager every penny I'll ever own that Jackie Robinson cards will outperform Ty Cobb cards over the next N number of years.
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Old 12-23-2022, 02:06 PM
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I wouldn't place my bets on Ty Cobb, considering the current social climate and where things seem to be heading. Debates aside about whether or not he was indeed a racist, and please let's not turn this into a debate about how we feel about the matter, the fact remains that there has been and continues to be a push to erase or suppress historical figures who are broadly viewed as racists. Whether he indeed was or was not, the fact remains that he is indeed viewed as such by the majority. And just like the statues of guys like Thomas Jefferson were torn down, I suspect it's only a matter of time until guys like Ty Cobb and Cap Anson fall victim to these behaviors and beliefs as well.

I would wager every penny I'll ever own that Jackie Robinson cards will outperform Ty Cobb cards over the next N number of years.
I completely disagree. I think Jackie cards are overvalued and cobb will continue to appreciate.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:23 PM
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It seems like the vintage guys that spike the most are a product of what is happening in the modern game at the time. My recollection of the 80s is that Ozzie Smith and Johnny Bench were very popular (thanks, in no small part, to a TV show that featured them every weekend), and it seemed like alot of attention was paid to great fielders and catchers of the past, like Brooks Robinson, Pee Wee Reese and Yogi Berra. They don't seem as high on collectors' minds these days.

Similarly, 80s pitchers seemed to be in the public consciousness for long stretches, with guys like Carlton, Seaver, Ryan and Palmer making every All Star Game, and guys like Koufax, Gibson, Spahn and Feller were great pickups (and debates of who the best "old time" pitcher - Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Matty, etc. happened outside of Net54). Outside of Koufax and maybe Gibson's rookie, not alot of upward movement on the 30s-60s greats now that "great" pitchers are changing every season.

In the late 80s and early 90s, with a modern focus on great BA hitters like Gwynn, Boggs and Mattingly, Ty Cobb, Ted Williams and Pete Rose were on everybody's wantlist. Then, Canseco, McGwire and Sosa happened, and Aaron, Mantle, and Mays were all the rage.

Perhaps the greatest example, Rickie Henderson made people care about Lou Brock for about 5 years.

It seems like the past 20 years, it has been about championships (Jeter), 5-tool players (Trout) and unique skillsets (Ohtani), mixed with pristine off-field reputations to counter the PED era. And a general societal shift towards breaking down barriers has caused guys like Jackie, Roberto, Satchel, and Josh Gibson to skyrocket.

Hard to predict what can happen 25 years from now. Maybe patriotism will be all the rage, and players like Ted Williams and Ernie Banks that served in the military will see their cards take off. Or, maybe overcoming physical limitations will be celebrated, and a player like Jim Abbott catches the hobby's attention. Maybe "error cards" will have a run like they have in other hobbies like stamps and coins.

The only guarantee is that the cards on my wantlist will never see a correction and each new offering will test the previous all time high.
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Old 12-23-2022, 03:08 PM
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I would wager every penny I'll ever own that Jackie Robinson cards will outperform Ty Cobb cards over the next N number of years.
I recall a similar bold (and fake) wager regarding the resale price of an uncle jacks Ruth. Just sayin…

That said, I do think Jackie cards will be one of the bigger winners over the next decade. I am not sure his cards beat Cobb, but I expect Jackie stuff will do as well as most. The only thing holding them back is a massive spike in value over the past few years (more than most other players I think), so maybe less room to run. Who knows. I stick to the HOF studs who played before WWII, and i have done pretty good

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Old 12-23-2022, 03:33 PM
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For us small time spenders, I agree with a prior post.

Your mid-career Hank Aaron & Willie Mays cards in EX-NM/MT that present very well with near perfect centering, great color, spot on focus, nice color, no print marks/blips. I have put in very healthy bids on a few of these recently and been outbid - not by just one bid, but several bids. Kinda blows my mind how strong the prices are for these vintage big name beauties.

But here is the kicker - they seem to keep increasing in price every auction every week/month. Last months NM7 Aaron at $500.-1,000. is this months Aaron at $700.-1,200. And I bet will be next months Aaron at $1,000.-1,500.
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