A public apology

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by milkit1

Good on ya Eric. I dont know the situation but I know the world lacks humility and I am always proud to see any individual speak out in this manner as I am sure it is not an easy thing to do. Hopefully the others involved have given you as much and we can all move upwards and onwards

+1 well said

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't mean to offend but I'm sort of with Doug here. Presumably the purpose of a "public apology" is to seek some sort of forgiveness but I don't know how anyone other than the two people involved can make that judgment with no context at all. If this was well publicized and I'm forgetting, different matter.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I don't mean to offend but I'm sort of with Doug here. Presumably the purpose of a "public apology" is to seek some sort of forgiveness but I don't know how anyone other than the two people involved can make that judgment with no context at all. If this was well publicized and I'm forgetting, different matter.

It's not easy for a fella to post on a public forum and admit he was a heel, he doesn't owe me an apology and he reached out to the two guys he does owe an apology too. I'm always impressed when I see someone gain a little insight, humility, and personal growth.

Now I know we're all waiting for Kevin Mize to return with hat in hand but I think that's a bridge too far...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

It's not easy for a fella to post on a public forum and admit he was a heel, he doesn't owe me an apology and he reached out to the two guys he does owe an apology too. I'm always impressed when I see someone gain a little insight, humility, and personal growth.

Now I know we're all waiting for Kevin Mize to return with hat in hand but I think that's a bridge too far...

If he did I am sure his apology would grade 9 oc.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If he did I am sure his apology would grade 9 oc.

Mize was banned, Erik (hi Erik) wasn't.
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Mize was banned, Eric wasn't.
.

A long and distinguished list, that.

[FrankWakefield]

I see Doug's and Peter's point. It's not a public apology when you say I'm sorry, but not what for. Calling it a public apology doesn't make it one.

I'm not saying a public apology is needed, although I suspect that it would help. And I don't know, or don't recall the situation, but Doug's point seems valid.

Sounds like Erik has started out on a good beginning to the path, but has a bit further to go?

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If he did I am sure his apology would grade 9 oc.

Now that’s funny!

[Rhotchkiss]

Only on net54 does a guy get bashed for making an apology. Tough fucking crowd.

Good for you Erik. Welcome back (I have no idea what you are apologizing for, but apparently you now owe another apology for calling whatever you posted a “public apology”).

The Mize comments, on the other hand, are classic

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Only on net54 does a guy get bashed for making an apology. Tough fucking crowd.

Good for you Erik. Welcome back (I have no idea what you are apologizing for, but apparently you now owe another apology for calling whatever you posted a “public apology”).

The Mize comments, on the other hand, are classic

Neither Doug, Frank nor I are bashing Erik at all.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Only on net54 does a guy get bashed criticized for making an apology. Tough fucking crowd.

Good for you Erik. Welcome back (I have no idea what you are apologizing for, but apparently you now owe another apology for calling whatever you posted a “public apology”).

The Mize comments, on the other hand, are classic

Fixed it for you Ryan! Erik, welcome back.

[drazz5]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Only on net54 does a guy get bashed for making an apology. Tough fucking crowd.

Good for you Erik. Welcome back (I have no idea what you are apologizing for, but apparently you now owe another apology for calling whatever you posted a “public apology”).

The Mize comments, on the other hand, are classic

Ha! My thoughts exactly. I don't think anyone here is in a position to opine on the adequacy of an apology that does not involve any of us.

Erik, no one forced you to go out of your way to post this, so good for you. Hope whoever you feel that you wronged can appreciate the effort as well.

Cheers!

[chjh]

This is a good website. Could be great if there weren't so many angry old men here. The angry are drowning out the rest.

[CJinPA]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Only on net54 does a guy get bashed for making an apology. Tough fucking crowd.

Good for you Erik. Welcome back (I have no idea what you are apologizing for, but apparently you now owe another apology for calling whatever you posted a “public apology”).

The Mize comments, on the other hand, are classic

+100 here.... I've read a lot here and comment from time to time. Peter Spaeth, seems like a good guy but there's no quarter given by him in his first response to the apology, why? Not detailed enough?

I kinda like Net54, but at the same time, kinda don't... I really mean no offense to anyone but there are some difficult dudes here, but WHY?

Spaeth, 27,000+ posts in 13 years? That's literally an avg. of 5.5+ posts per day for 13 years but cannot simply take an apology..... sheesh

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

I’d grade this apology an “Auth” as I sense sincerity and a genuine regret, coupled with an honest desire to move forward. Props to the OP and welcome back!

To qualify the grade given, the apology may have some surface issues related to context and degree of deviation, yet it also reveals well-centered and thoughtful meditation on the part of the one seeking forgiveness. The regret is obviously acute and sharply defined. The ambiguous edges of the remorse, however, do create a modest lack of clarity.

I recommend a 30 minute soak to clean up the surface problem and we’ll have a solid NM-MT apology.

[egri]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If he did I am sure his apology would grade 9 oc.

But it would be priced as a straight 9.

[Rich Klein]

From Erik's list -- Ruth and Gehrig made up very publicly on July 4, 1939 and Juan Marichal did one of the eulogies at John Roseboro's funeral.

Things can get healed and I for one appreciate healing a lot.

Rich

P.S. We did have ONE person who forgot to hit send for Secret Santa and I have room to get him a match if anyone wants to join in

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

From Erik's list -- Ruth and Gehrig made up very publicly on July 4, 1939 and Juan Marichal did one of the eulogies at John Roseboro's funeral.

Things can get healed and I for one appreciate healing a lot.

Rich

P.S. We did have ONE person who forgot to hit send for Secret Santa and I have room to get him a match if anyone wants to join in

This Secret Santa who failed to 'hit send' better issue a public apology with all the juicy details or else suffer the wrath of Net54!

Brian

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by egri

But it would be priced as a straight 9.

And bumped 1,000 times over a 10 year period.

[Bigdaddy]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

It's not easy for a fella to post on a public forum and admit he was a heel, he doesn't owe me an apology and he reached out to the two guys he does owe an apology too. I'm always impressed when I see someone gain a little insight, humility, and personal growth.

Now I know we're all waiting for Kevin Mize to return with hat in hand but I think that's a bridge too far...

Agree with Phil's take on this one. I am fine with a public acknowledgement of a private apology.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Agree with Phil's take on this one. I am fine with a public acknowledgement of a private apology.

I agree with this. While I am curious now I'm certainly not owed any explanation. And as Eric was never banned even this public acknowledgement of a private apology was not necessary.

[michael3322]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I agree with this. While I am curious now I'm certainly not owed any explanation. And as Eric was never banned even this public acknowledgement of a private apology was not necessary.

I agree. Don't know any of the details aside from what's in the thread. But do know that in this day and age, forgiveness and humility are increasingly in short supply, so glad to see so many extending forgiveness for whatever happened here. Hopefully those directly affected by whatever initially happened feel whatever private amends made proved sufficient.

[doug.goodman]

Look, I appreciate that whoever Erik owes his apology to knows exactly what he is talking about, and probably appreciates the thought, but I still don't see how his apology now qualifies as being 'public'.

But, if it does by the definition of the majority of this board, then I also would like to apologize 'in public' to nobody in particular about nothing specific.

Boy, I feel a lot better about that, thank you.

Now I can can move on with my life fully cleansed of my indiscretion.

Doug 'sorry, I still don't get it' Goodman