Do you utilize a vault service for your cards?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by raulus

And fundamentally, I don’t trust any of these vaults to actually take care of my collection.

I get the concept, I get being an investor, and I get avoiding as many taxes as one legally can. But seriously, how are people stupid enough to leave their valuable property with PWCC, an almost openly criminal enterprise? The odds that PWCC ends up 'mishandling' property or that the government finally puts a stop to their ring and your cards go missing or are tied up in court are fairly high. PWCC's vault is about the only way that trusting Goldin instead makes sense. The victim of a crime is never to blame, but it will be hard to sympathize much when one of these vaults ran by dirty profiteers and/or fraudsters ends up blowing up.

[bmattioli]

My father always told me don't tell anyone what you have..

[iwantitiwinit]

I guess you're serious, absolutely not, ridiculous.

[Republicaninmass]

I prefer to sit on my own assets

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I prefer to sit on my own assets

What he said +1.

[notfast]

I bought two $5 cards using the PWCC auction and have them in their vault because I wanted to try it.

I can somewhat see the appeal on stuff you are solely buying to resell.

[dmats33312]

No, I just insure it myself, store it myself. If I can't look at them from time to time I don't see the point. I think the only way I'd use a vault is to save the taxes on a big item.

[russkcpa]

Originally Posted by G1911

I get the concept, I get being an investor, and I get avoiding as many taxes as one legally can. But seriously, how are people stupid enough to leave their valuable property with PWCC, an almost openly criminal enterprise? The odds that PWCC ends up 'mishandling' property or that the government finally puts a stop to their ring and your cards go missing or are tied up in court are fairly high. PWCC's vault is about the only way that trusting Goldin instead makes sense. The victim of a crime is never to blame, but it will be hard to sympathize much when one of these vaults ran by dirty profiteers and/or fraudsters ends up blowing up.

You use very harsh language describing PWCC. Perhaps you should look up libel and slander in the dictionary. I have no beef with the PWCC vault and think their sample vault inventory looks better than Goldin.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by russkcpa

You use very harsh language describing PWCC. Perhaps you should look up libel and slander in the dictionary. I have no beef with the PWCC vault and think their sample vault inventory looks better than Goldin.

Ha. Libel? Slander? More like fact. The evidence of their guilt is overwhelming. Being a PWCC shill is hard work these days. Glad there’s two of you here now. Feel free to file suit.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by russkcpa

You use very harsh language describing PWCC. Perhaps you should look up libel and slander in the dictionary. I have no beef with the PWCC vault and think their sample vault inventory looks better than Goldin.

LOL, It's not libel and slander if true LOOK IT UP!

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

LOL, It's not libel and slander if true LOOK IT UP!

Remember when the PWCC fanboys sounded like they had an IQ over 35? This is what’s left of them

[timzcardz]

The first minute and a half accurately sums up what's going on here . . .


https://youtu.be/4x_QkGPCL18

[Rhotchkiss]

It seems that a 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 10 is more popular compared to a T206 Plank (29 to 158) than using a vault vs not using a vault (14 to 169).

I do not use a vault, but have no issue with the concept and could one day consider using one

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

It seems that a 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 10 is more popular compared to a T206 Plank (29 to 158) than using a vault vs not using a vault (14 to 169).

I do not use a vault, but have no issue with the concept and could one day consider using one

i suspect most of the vault customers are modern guys doing a fair amount of flipping, and not vintage collectors looking for a place to store their collections. So results not surprising given the demographic here.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

It seems that a 1986 Fleer Jordan PSA 10 is more popular compared to a T206 Plank (29 to 158) than using a vault vs not using a vault (14 to 169).

I do not use a vault, but have no issue with the concept and could one day consider using one

Aren't those two polls basically measuring two entirely different things? One (Plank vs. Jordan) is about WHAT you collect, while the other (vault vs. no vault) is about HOW you collect.