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Old 10-25-2022, 05:51 PM
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Yes, vintage catalogues like this one are huge. So, we now have confirmation that Keezer/American Knitwear made a pennant for all NFL and AFL football teams as of 1964'ish. They also did the same for the original six NFL teams. Moreover, this offering may not have featured a consistent maker's mark identifying their manufacturer as either Keezer or American Knitwear.

I'd like to update my post on Keezer to reflect some of these newly discovered pro football pennants. Can you guys help ID some of the others? Marc's eagle eye already spotted these winners....
This Bills is Keezer. It's stamped on the back. I initially thought it was 1940s AAFC Bills, but it seems logical now that this is an AFL Buffalo Bills pennant.
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This Bills is Keezer. It's stamped on the back. I initially thought it was 1940s AAFC Bills, but it seems logical now that this is an AFL Buffalo Bills pennant.
Right on! I knew you'd have some answers for us from the football side of the house.

Is this Bills pennant full size? Marc's 1964 catalogue suggests that Keezer's/American Knitwear's offering was limited solely to 5" x 12" minis. (No mention of any other sizes.)
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Old 10-26-2022, 06:13 AM
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Right on! I knew you'd have some answers for us from the football side of the house.

Is this Bills pennant full size? Marc's 1964 catalogue suggests that Keezer's/American Knitwear's offering was limited solely to 5" x 12" minis. (No mention of any other sizes.)
The Oilers I have above is full size, and identical in design to the 5 x 12. As rare as the minis are, the full size ones seem even more rare. I think I've seen the Oilers and the Packers. Fballguy has a pic of a packers fan with one at a Super Bowl. And I think Mark has/had the Steelers. That's all I've seen.

I'd think that the Bills above is older, and not part of the same series. It does not match style wise.

Edited: So, I just found a copy of the Bills mini pennant on Worthpoint. See below. And it has an American Knitwear stamp. So, I guess that answers that for the mini pennants (and their large counterparts). Not sure about Fballguy's Bills pennant.
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The. Choices for a World Series Pennant in Philly are weak
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The. Choices for a World Series Pennant in Philly are weak
How much do those depreciate once you take them off the rack? 100%?
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Right on! I knew you'd have some answers for us from the football side of the house.

Is this Bills pennant full size? Marc's 1964 catalogue suggests that Keezer's/American Knitwear's offering was limited solely to 5" x 12" minis. (No mention of any other sizes.)
Yes...Full size. I can send exact measurements and a pic of the stamp when I get home this weekend. I didn't compare the stamp to baseball Keezers I have, but at first glance it looks just like the baseball stamp. Not sure if the stamp evolved over the years.

Marc...Your large Oilers and my Bills have the same stiff non-"felt" tassels.
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That strange tassel material (and sometimes spines) seems to suggest that they came from the same era, probably early 1960s.

Gary- the baseball Keezer ones I have been posting (e.g., White Sox) are full size.
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Old 10-26-2022, 10:18 AM
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These are all stamped American Knitwear. All mini pennants.
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Wow, nice find Marc. Who knew all you had to do was search for "American Knitwear" (rather than Keezer) pennants?
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That Pirate mini is different from the normal, full size Pirate we always associated with Keezer. Come to think of it, it seems awfully consistent with Marc's SF Giants pennant, bearing no mark, but believed to be by Keezer/American Knitwear.

Both are 5" x 12".

Doesn't this suggest there's a whole set of baseball 5" x 12" minis by Keezer/American Knitwear with new artwork, not seen on older full size Keezers?
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These are all stamped American Knitwear. All mini pennants.
Referring back to the conversation around Post #6806

I recently picked up this mini New York Yankees American Knitwear pennant. It is very similar to the full-sized Keezer pennant I'm selling on eBay. I don't know where this conversation left off, but I wanted to provide these contributions.
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Thanks, Erik. Crossed bats seem to be a common theme in this series.

About Worton, I look forward to hearing more from Kyle and others. It is interesting that the ad talks about price per 100. Makes it seem like high volume. Based on what's available on worthpoint, seems like the Worton and Epstein labels are both pretty rare (maybe 10 examples of each). But Trench labels are also pretty rare. So how to tell the difference between a maker and a down the line seller?
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