MLB Greats Who Bordered on Post Season Zero's Or Mediocre

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by rats60

Barry Bonds .191 with 1 HR and 3 RBI without steroids was a total zero.

Willie Mays .248/.343/.325 1 HR in 134 PA was almost as bad.

Clayton Kershaw 4.22 ERA in 194 is the worst for pitchers with 100+ innings.

Roger Clemens was almost as bad with his 3.75 ERA (3.88 ERA 1-2 in 9 starts without steroids).

It's funny how you and others need to bring up steroids when you talk about Bonds stats, yet you celebrate the Yankees 2009 World Series when most of the team were 'roids guys: Arod, Clemens, Pettitte, knoblauch, Giambi, etc.

So World Series Titles with steroids guys are ok, but stats don't count. Yah that makes sense. You'd make a great Democrat.

[mrreality68]

Just remembered and had to confirm

Roger Hornsby 2nd Higher career batting avg at .358 and in playoffs with St. Louis and Chicago

Only .245 Batting Average, .288 OBP and .327 Slugging with no homers over 12 games and 49 AB’s

And with that every thread needs a Card

[bbcard1]

Ernie Banks. Absent on picture day.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

It's funny how you and others need to bring up steroids when you talk about Bonds stats, yet you celebrate the Yankees 2009 World Series when most of the team were 'roids guys: Arod, Clemens, Pettitte, knoblauch, Giambi, etc.

So World Series Titles with steroids guys are ok, but stats don't count. Yah that makes sense. You'd make a great Democrat.

In a thread with steroids, playoff lightweights, Barry Bonds, and the New York Yankees...you chose to introduce politics?

Weren't there enough topics for people to bicker over?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

It's funny how you and others need to bring up steroids when you talk about Bonds stats, yet you celebrate the Yankees 2009 World Series when most of the team were 'roids guys: Arod, Clemens, Pettitte, knoblauch, Giambi, etc.

So World Series Titles with steroids guys are ok, but stats don't count. Yah that makes sense. You'd make a great Democrat.

When did I ever celebrate the Yankees 2009 WS title? I can't stand the Yankees or ARoid. The same for the Red Sox and Big Dopey or any other dopers.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

It's funny how you and others need to bring up steroids when you talk about Bonds stats, yet you celebrate the Yankees 2009 World Series when most of the team were 'roids guys: Arod, Clemens, Pettitte, knoblauch, Giambi, etc.

So World Series Titles with steroids guys are ok, but stats don't count. Yah that makes sense. You'd make a great Democrat.

The problem with Bonds irrespective of steroids, was a classic narcissist approach, it was King Barry, his special chair, and his supporting cast. You don't win Championships that way, he wasn't a leader, he was selfish to no end, and cared little for his teammates. His attitude repelled so many people who wanted to root for him. He made his Godfather, arguably the greatest player ever, uncomfortable to be his Godfather. No wonder Jeff Kent wanted to kick his ass in the dugout during a game. He really made himself such an unlikeable character and none of it was necessary. Barry was cancer and needed to be cut out.

Compare that era to the 2010/12/14 WS Giants, that's how you build a team and win.

Signed,
Devout Giants fan for 50 years.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

The problem with Bonds irrespective of steroids, was a classic narcissist approach, it was King Barry, his special chair, and his supporting cast. You don't win Championships that way, he wasn't a leader, he was selfish to no end, and cared little for his teammates. His attitude repelled so many people who wanted to root for him. He made his Godfather, arguably the greatest player ever, uncomfortable to be his Godfather. No wonder Jeff Kent wanted to kick his ass in the dugout during a game. He really made himself such an unlikeable character and none of it was necessary. Barry was cancer and needed to be cut out.

Compare that era to the 2010/12/14 WS Giants, that's how you build a team and win.

Signed,
Devout Giants fan for 50 years.

Did you see the DeNiro movie The Fan? Wesley Snipes was awesome as a Bonds=based character.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did you see the DeNiro movie The Fan? Wesley Snipes was awesome as a Bonds=based character.

Oh no, here we go.