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Old 10-16-2022, 12:57 AM
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Yep, this is what happens when you flip coins to see who the "best team" is. Gotta love baseball and the 5 games series.
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Yep, this is what happens when you flip coins to see who the "best team" is. Gotta love baseball and the 5 games series.
Just out of curiosity, what does the math say about the difference between a 5-game and a 7-game series in terms of the probability of a major underdog knocking off a favorite? Just for fun, let’s say a hypothetical team with 89 wins was facing another hypothetical team with 111.
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Just out of curiosity, what does the math say about the difference between a 5-game and a 7-game series in terms of the probability of a major underdog knocking off a favorite? Just for fun, let’s say a hypothetical team with 89 wins was facing another hypothetical team with 111.
If MLB wanted the team with the best record to be the champion it could just eliminate the playoffs. I think the current format with a good chance for upset in the early rounds is great. Shorter series should favor the teams with the best top rotation anyhow, in theory.
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Just out of curiosity, what does the math say about the difference between a 5-game and a 7-game series in terms of the probability of a major underdog knocking off a favorite? Just for fun, let’s say a hypothetical team with 89 wins was facing another hypothetical team with 111.
Based on the regular season win totals, the 111-win team should beat the 89-win team 55.6% of the time. That gives the better team a 60.4% chance of winning a best-of-5 series and a 68.5% chance of winning a best-of-7 series.
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Based on the regular season win totals, the 111-win team should beat the 89-win team 55.6% of the time. That gives the better team a 60.4% chance of winning a best-of-5 series and a 68.5% chance of winning a best-of-7 series.
I think the Dodgers beat the Padres 14 out of 19 games in 2022. That puts them at 73.7% on the season. However, they only took 1 out of 4 games in the post season, that's 25%. Has a nice ring to it, 25%... let's type that again, 25%... it just rolls off the fingertips...

.684 win% (111 wins) vs .549 win% (89 wins) -

doesn't make sense... 25%...
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Based on the regular season win totals, the 111-win team should beat the 89-win team 55.6% of the time. That gives the better team a 60.4% chance of winning a best-of-5 series and a 68.5% chance of winning a best-of-7 series.
This math is not correct
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Yep, this is what happens when you flip coins to see who the "best team" is. Gotta love baseball and the 5 games series.
How about NFL playoff where you lose once and you are gone? And flipping coins is a ritualized part of every football game.

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I tend to agree. . . . .
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It's baseball!

Things have changed over time. I'm not sure if I'd used the word "evolved" with baseball. The word I think of is "manipulated".

Saul Goodman - The basic rules are the same, you throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the ball. It's become more statistic oriented these days but that's what one of the allures was about baseball to begin with.

Where else is a 60% success rate consider awesome for a season.

If you collect baseball cards, let's say T206s, then you decide, do I go to a ball game with my family or do I pick up a couple T206 HOFers?

Edited to add - yeah, Go Pudres!!! So nice to see Goliath taken down. All season long the Dodgers took it to San Diego, but look what happened when it really counted! AND THAT'S why we love baseball!
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I tend to agree. . . . .

That’s a comment from people who’s team lost.


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The first and last time I'll ever agree with Olbermann.
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No band wagoner here...Padres have been my team since 1982 when I moved to San Diego. By the way, there is only one true San Diego Goose. Go Pads!
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This. It made much more sense when we had 154 games to determine order rather than 5 or 7. It will never revert because playoffs are $$$$, but it made more sense.
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Is Keith Oberman still alive? He fell off the map to me when he left ESPN 20 years ago.

Probably a Mets or Yankees fan with that attitude.

PLAYOFF BASEBALL IS TREMENDOUS FOR TRUE BASEBALL FANS.

True baseball fans don't need a team to root for to watch & appreciate great baseball. (Although I'm rooting for Houston & Cleveland myself)

He's obviously not a true "baseball" fan, he's a fan of a particular franchise.

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I also have to admit I have no idea where he works now or what he does...
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Is Keith Oberman still alive? He fell off the map to me when he left ESPN 20 years ago.

Probably a Mets or Yankees fan with that attitude.

PLAYOFF BASEBALL IS TREMENDOUS FOR TRUE BASEBALL FANS.

True baseball fans don't need a team to root for to watch & appreciate great baseball. (Although I'm rooting for Houston & Cleveland myself)

He's obviously not a true "baseball" fan, he's a fan of a particular franchise.
I agree. Many times (and I love baseball) I was bored to death by regular season play. This post season has been exciting and we've actually seen things like bunts (do you guys remember those?). If we start seeing things like hitting behind the runner and suicide squeezes, I'll probably faint.
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As a Yankees fan (but not one of THOSE Yankees fans), as well as a fan of baseball in general, it’s fun to see some relatively unexpected teams moving ahead and watching their respective fan bases get excited.

I think that the guardians are an underrated team. They ran the table the last month of the season and remind me of the early jeter-era Yankees. Lots of confidence, grinding and good play. I’d of course love to see the Yankees win, but this series feels like the 2003 World Series version of the yankees, when an upstart Florida team ran them over. There just isn’t a cohesion among the team to grind out the wins in these important games.

Should Cleveland advance, I think that they will give Houston a run for their money.

I don’t know much about this year’s padres, but it’s nice to see that their rebuilding efforts are bearing some fruit.
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I agree. Many times (and I love baseball) I was bored to death by regular season play. This post season has been exciting and we've actually seen things like bunts (do you guys remember those?). If we start seeing things like hitting behind the runner and suicide squeezes, I'll probably faint.
Completely agree, in fact I think these Playoffs have ruined regular season baseball for me. (Not really, but close....still need it during the summer months).

EVERY Series, EVERY game, maybe EVERY inning, both Rounds, has been tremendous so far!

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Is Keith Oberman still alive? He fell off the map to me when he left ESPN 20 years ago.


Originally Posted by Bobby Strawberry

I also have to admit I have no idea where he works now or what he does...



He has likely been outbidding all of us on the vintage cards we want.

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