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Old 10-08-2022, 06:22 PM
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I don’t remember a player self destructing so bad as Cano. Even Bonds and Clemens have the “still the best and you know it, haters” element. Cano just… complete suicide.

I’m sure someone else has done it or worse, but he’s the one who always comes to mind here.
A fitting farewell tour lol, hitting .150 or whatever, and disappearing in July with probably not one line in the press. From first-ballot HOF to nowhere.
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Old 10-08-2022, 06:27 PM
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I mean maybe the first suspension was not the death knell, as I recall he tested positive for a diuretic which I suppose could have been a medical thing and he just fucked up documenting it, although I don't remember the details now.

The second one, no plausible mitigating circumstances.
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Old 10-08-2022, 06:30 PM
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I mean maybe the first suspension was not the death knell, as I recall he tested positive for a diuretic which I suppose could have been a medical thing and he just fucked up documenting it, although I don't remember the details now.

The second one, no plausible mitigating circumstances.
And sadly 3 chances to be a World Champion
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Old 10-08-2022, 06:45 PM
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And sadly 3 chances to be a World Champion
Hard to believe even Cano would accept a ring under such circumstances.
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Hard to believe even Cano would accept a ring under such circumstances.
I don't know Peter. Given Cano's behavior, I tend to believe he would happily accept a ring.

Good riddance.
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I don't know Peter. Given Cano's behavior, I tend to believe he would happily accept a ring.

Good riddance.
He will take it guaranteed as would most players and he will take the share of the money that goes with it
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I don't know Peter. Given Cano's behavior, I tend to believe he would happily accept a ring.

Good riddance.
And look for the ring in the Heritage 2023 Spring catalog auction.
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Just to set the record straight, I can pinpoint exactly when his demise started. After watching him for years, I finally said "This guy might end up being a HOFer." So I bought a GU bat of his. One week later, suspension and fast track to oblivion.

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And look for the ring in the Heritage 2023 Spring catalog auction.
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I mean maybe the first suspension was not the death knell, as I recall he tested positive for a diuretic which I suppose could have been a medical thing and he just fucked up documenting it, although I don't remember the details now.

The second one, no plausible mitigating circumstances.
Cano was on a HOF path, but also seemed to be getting setup to be a long-term face of the Post-Jeter Yankees before he left. Boy did he screw that up. Other users have gotten more hate, but none of them have quite gotten the same cold shoulder and just being ignored like Cano has. He went from good press to no press pretty quick. A-Rod, Manny both got busted twice too as I recall, but neither just kind of disappeared even while they were still there.
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Cano was on a HOF path, but also seemed to be getting setup to be a long-term face of the Post-Jeter Yankees before he left. Boy did he screw that up. Other users have gotten more hate, but none of them have quite gotten the same cold shoulder and just being ignored like Cano has. He went from good press to no press pretty quick. A-Rod, Manny both got busted twice too as I recall, but neither just kind of disappeared even while they were still there.
Palmeiro similarly became persona non grata pretty quickly.
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Palmeiro similarly became persona non grata pretty quickly.
A lot of guys become persona non grata. Hell, Bonds was straight up blackballed out of baseball. I remember he even offered to play for the minimum and no one bit, after he posted a .480 on base to lead the league yet again in his final season.

What saves these guys is that they hit the huge milestones, and while they became unwelcome they couldn't be ignored. Palmeiro got over 500/3,000 and his name still comes up plenty, in a negative way, but there. Cano didn't really become persona non grata, he just became almost not even there at all, a footnote instead of a villain.
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A lot of guys become persona non grata. Hell, Bonds was straight up blackballed out of baseball. I remember he even offered to play for the minimum and no one bit, after he posted a .480 on base to lead the league yet again in his final season.

What saves these guys is that they hit the huge milestones, and while they became unwelcome they couldn't be ignored. Palmeiro got over 500/3,000 and his name still comes up plenty, in a negative way, but there. Cano didn't really become persona non grata, he just became almost not even there at all, a footnote instead of a villain.
Not persona non grata, just persona non lol.
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