The Aaron Judge Effect

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

And let's not forget Ruth, you know the Babe was boozed up or recovering from a night out many an at bat. And that was during Prohibation, so you want to talk about breaking the law.

They all did what they had to do during their time period.

I thought the McGwire Sosa first season head to head was TREMENDOUS!

Who care's if they were juiced, about 3 guys on the planet hit the ball like that and 80/90% were doing it and they couldn't do what Sosa, McGwire and Bonds did.

And I'll say that one season Bonds had was the greatest by a hitter I ever saw. THAT TOO WAS TREMENDOUS!!!

I also thought I had read/heard somewhere that Ruth got caught using a corked/juiced bat once as well.

The fact is that MLB didn't have specific rules in place against the use of PEDs at the time. The home run competition between those two helped boost MLB in the aftermath of the strike that had taken place earlier in the 90's. MLB was eating it up, and taking every advantage they could to make money off what the PED users were doing.

[RCMcKenzie]

Stan, I guess my concern is the Tatis Jr. story. I feel like we are still in the steroid era. Bonds is not a past tense era guy, he's in this era.

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Stan, I guess my concern is the Tatis Jr. story. I feel like we are still in the steroid era. Bonds is not a past tense era guy, he's in this era.

No, compare what Tatis took to what Bonds took. And there is not the rampant usage happening today.

So we think.

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[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake

No, compare what Tatis took to what Bonds took. And there is not the rampant usage happening today.

So we think.

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I honestly don't know what they do. I'm saying I take the numbers with a grain of salt. Why does Baltimore have a 20 foot wall down the left field line that is 384 feet away?

[Hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I honestly don't know what they do. I'm saying I take the numbers with a grain of salt. Why does Baltimore have a 20 foot wall down the left field line that is 384 feet away?

That's my point. The devil is in the details...

Deflating a ball isnt the same as fixing a World Series...

I think we have to examine each case and then debate/determine where it lands on the pantheon of cheaters.

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[packs]

This article about the Maris family and their POV on the record is from 2011:

https://www.sfgate.com/sports/articl...rd-2308400.php

And again in 2022:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022...ron-judge.html