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Old 09-03-2022, 01:30 PM
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I agree on the trimmed part. When I first looked at it I said, where are the borders?
That said, the old holder might be worth something!! Hobby folklore...(though true)
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I was thinking the same thing, is anybody putting together a collection of old holders? This one would be a granddaddy. Maybe PSA could holder old holders and put a grade on them.
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Old 09-03-2022, 02:09 PM
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Definitely trimmed if it were mine I would keep it in this historical slab.
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Definitely trimmed if it were mine I would keep it in this historical slab.
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Old 09-03-2022, 03:37 PM
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To me, the card isn't trimmed. I consider trimming involving slight cutting of the edges to 'trim' away wear. That card looks cut... as in a teenager got after it with scissors. No matter the holder, the card is of nominal value; and would not bring much money other than from an unsuspecting buyer. I think it'd cost more to get it into a PSA Authentic holder than the card is worth.
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I was thinking the same thing, is anybody putting together a collection of old holders? This one would be a granddaddy. Maybe PSA could holder old holders and put a grade on them.
I was hoping for something like this. Would really like if PSA would keep it in the holder.
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Old 09-03-2022, 04:52 PM
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Hasn't this card been on ebay for a year?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23419089888...Bk9SR_qduNjgYA
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Hasn't this card been on ebay for a year?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23419089888...Bk9SR_qduNjgYA
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:15 PM
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That might be the first holder that ASA used. An ET7 was not near mint but closer to EX I think. Considering Hager didn't start taking submissions right away, that is one of his own personally graded cards.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:21 PM
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Hasn't this card been on ebay for a year?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23419089888...Bk9SR_qduNjgYA
Listed it over a year ago. My full-time job is anesthesia, card collecting is a hobby. I've been selling all my cards and memorbilia and donating the proceeds. I've got so much and trying to sort through what has value has been very time consuming.
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Listed it over a year ago. My full-time job is anesthesia, card collecting is a hobby. I've been selling all my cards and memorbilia and donating the proceeds. I've got so much and trying to sort through what has value has been very time consuming.
You should disclose in the listing that the card is trimmed.
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:39 PM
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You should disclose in the listing that the card is trimmed.
Just to make sure my understanding of grading abbreviations is clear, but I thought "ET" mean't Evidence of Trimming?
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:44 PM
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Just to make sure my understanding of grading abbreviations is clear, but I thought "ET" mean't Evidence of Trimming?
I apologize if I’m an idiot, what is the E in the advertisement for then? I thought it was just their prefix. Been awhile since I’ve cracked one of these…
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Here's the only card Alan Hagar ever correctly slabbed.
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My full-time job is anesthesia, card collecting is a hobby.
Just curious but is that the reason why you bought Doc Adkins card in the first place?

Anyways I would crack it out of the case for the following reasons:
1) it’ ll probably fail eBay’s Authenticity Guarantee ( I know because I bought a Babe Ruth card in an ASA slab. CSG failed it. The seller eventually had the card authenticated by CSG and sold it to someone else for twice the amount).
2) Historical reasons or not, I don’t think you’ll get the price that you’re currently asking for in its current slab.

Just my $0.02.

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Old 09-04-2022, 06:35 AM
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I would sell it as is, def label it authentic but trimmed. I really don’t think it’s worth the time/$ to re-holder it just to have it come back “A” anyway and get a small sale.

This thread was very educational, I did not know some of these things regarding ASA.
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Alan would have salespeople dress in suits and carry his tome in an attaché case. They would sell his book, his cards, and more importantly his philosophy. Lots of pomp and little substance. The inflationary prices and fanciful projections were not of this earth. As it turns out though - he was kind of right.
What began with a grading/encapsulation process in the coin industry morphed into same for cards. It was suggested he would encapsulate cards and coins that were altered into his own tombs and sell them as uncleaned or unaltered. His reputation was let's just say not stellar and one can get a glimpse by searching a bit of the interweb. I spoke with him a few times - primarily after he moved to Florida related to cigarette packs and packaging. He actually had a table at a national maybe 8(?) years ago after an absence of about that much time. I have his book entrenched on my collectible bookshelf nestled in-between my Cashmanian coffee table book and Petrone's Tobacco Advertising The Great Seduction. Quite a character - many of the early hucksters were.
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To me, an Alan Hager holder has no historical value.
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To me, an Alan Hager holder has no historical value.
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And, if there's any chance of getting it into a numerical PSA or SGC holder, crack it out and send it to one of them.

Sharp card, although I'm 99% sure it's trimmed; but nice card nonetheless.

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