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Old 09-03-2022, 06:39 PM
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You should disclose in the listing that the card is trimmed.
Just to make sure my understanding of grading abbreviations is clear, but I thought "ET" mean't Evidence of Trimming?
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:44 PM
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Just to make sure my understanding of grading abbreviations is clear, but I thought "ET" mean't Evidence of Trimming?
I apologize if I’m an idiot, what is the E in the advertisement for then? I thought it was just their prefix. Been awhile since I’ve cracked one of these…
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Old 09-03-2022, 06:47 PM
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Here's the only card Alan Hagar ever correctly slabbed.
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Here's the only card Alan Hagar ever correctly slabbed.
Interesting to converse with people who knew Alan Hagar. So do you think my card has minimal value?

Just curious is Alan still alive?
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:04 PM
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Interesting to converse with people who knew Alan Hagar. So do you think my card has minimal value?

Just curious is Alan still alive?
I asked that above and one person PMd me they think he is.

My dealings with him were limited but memorable.
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I asked that above and one person PMd me they think he is.

My dealings with him were limited but memorable. Just curious is Alan still alive?

Then there's a chance I can get him to reslab my card and leave out "Altered Reprint".
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:20 PM
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Then there's a chance I can get him to reslab my card and leave out "Altered Reprint".
Lol if that happens, maybe you can get him to regrade mine.
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An Adkins Piedmont in low grade will sell for $125-150, maybe more. If you want to sell the card, you should probably pay the $30 or whatever it is at SGC to get it graded, even if it grades an A, there are plenty of collectors who will pay a premium for nice looking cards in A holders. If by some small chance it isn't trimmed, then it looks like an SGC 4 or better, which will fetch a huge figure. But you are unlikely to get a big sum with the card in that holder.
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An Adkins Piedmont in low grade will sell for $125-150, maybe more. If you want to sell the card, you should probably pay the $30 or whatever it is at SGC to get it graded, even if it grades an A, there are plenty of collectors who will pay a premium for nice looking cards in A holders. If by some small chance it isn't trimmed, then it looks like an SGC 4 or better, which will fetch a huge figure. But you are unlikely to get a big sum with the card in that holder.
Thanks for the advice! It's an interesting topic. This card is the oddball in my collection. I enjoy learning about the history.
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I asked that above and one person PMd me they think he is.

My dealings with him were limited but memorable.
Interesting!
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That holder detracts from the value. It doesn't add to it. Crack it out ASAP. Being the first doesn't mean much when you show a counterfeit 52 Mantle in your holder in the ad photo lol. Send to SGC and check the "Slab if altered" box.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:57 PM
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That holder detracts from the value. It doesn't add to it. Crack it out ASAP. Being the first doesn't mean much when you show a counterfeit 52 Mantle in your holder in the ad photo lol. Send to SGC and check the "Slab if altered" box.
LOL good point!
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I’ve been collecting cards for 45+ years, and I’ve never heard of Acu-card or whatever. I’d go SGC and if it gets an A, so be it.
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My dealings with him were limited but memorable.
Care to elaborate?
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Sure. So as you may recall, Alan's claim to fame was inventing the "arrowhead" holder. I believe he patented it and licensed the rights to PSA. At one point he was selling holders separately and while they were meant to be sealed, they snapped together really well and were great for moderately priced raw cards. I bought a bunch. When I ran out, I called and tried to order some more. Alan went insane, screamed at me that I couldn't buy them without purchasing a license to his patent, insisted that I was lying when I said I had previously bought some, demanded to know who I had spoken to about my prior order, etc. etc. He was truly livid and of course I got calmer and calmer which just seemed to incite him more. It was really weird.
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Good stuff


Didn't he invent the 1 to 10 grading scale & the newer grading companies (like PSA) had to pay for use of that scale?
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Sure. So as you may recall, Alan's claim to fame was inventing the "arrowhead" holder. I believe he patented it and licensed the rights to PSA. At one point he was selling holders separately and while they were meant to be sealed, they snapped together really well and were great for moderately priced raw cards. I bought a bunch. When I ran out, I called and tried to order some more. Alan went insane, screamed at me that I couldn't buy them without purchasing a license to his patent, insisted that I was lying when I said I had previously bought some, demanded to know who I had spoken to about my prior order, etc. etc. He was truly livid and of course I got calmer and calmer which just seemed to incite him more. It was really weird.
Wow! Quite comical to hear. I've met some people like that. SMH.

I ran across this in my search for more info about Alan. Don't know if this is his site. https://macablege.com/
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Sure. So as you may recall, Alan's claim to fame was inventing the "arrowhead" holder. I believe he patented it and licensed the rights to PSA. At one point he was selling holders separately and while they were meant to be sealed, they snapped together really well and were great for moderately priced raw cards. I bought a bunch. When I ran out, I called and tried to order some more. Alan went insane, screamed at me that I couldn't buy them without purchasing a license to his patent, insisted that I was lying when I said I had previously bought some, demanded to know who I had spoken to about my prior order, etc. etc. He was truly livid and of course I got calmer and calmer which just seemed to incite him more. It was really weird.
I guess Hager forgot he placed an ad selling those holders. He placed the ad in his own book, though.
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