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Old 09-01-2022, 06:31 PM
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As the OP was factually correct and you were factually wrong, it seems your complaint was the one “about the wrong thing”. You might not agree with the complaint, but it’s at least valid and not “about the wrong thing”.
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Breaking news. . . nothing is perfect and people make mistakes. Film at 11.
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Old 09-01-2022, 06:38 PM
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Do you have any example of the good this has done? Has PSA found a single fake PSA slab to remove?

Doesn’t seem like a “nothing is perfect” so much as “this does nothing but delay and possibly lose your item while adding no benefit”.
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Do you have any example of the good this has done? Has PSA found a single fake PSA slab to remove?

Doesn’t seem like a “nothing is perfect” so much as “this does nothing but delay and possibly lose your item while adding no benefit”.
I think on Blowout a poster stated he had heard of one such fake slab found, or claimed anyhow by PSA. Or perhaps it was here.

But hey, I am glad my Kawhi Leonard $500 rookie was just blessed, I am sure there was a real high chance that card slabbed a month ago by the seller could have been a fake slab.
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Old 09-01-2022, 07:17 PM
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I think on Blowout a poster stated he had heard of one such fake slab found, or claimed anyhow by PSA. Or perhaps it was here.

But hey, I am glad my Kawhi Leonard $500 rookie was just blessed, I am sure there was a real high chance that card slabbed a month ago by the seller could have been a fake slab.
Awesome, one. That’s actually the highest total I’ve seen yet. This program isn’t doing anything but route cash to PSA to… authenticate the plastic holder (we all know what really matters and it ain’t the card). That people want to defend this as “not everything is perfect” tells you there is no real coherent argument for how this makes a lick of sense. The raw card version can be spun, but this is sillier than a purple sticker and clearly does nothing.
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Awesome, one. That’s actually the highest total I’ve seen yet. This program isn’t doing anything but route cash to PSA to… authenticate the plastic holder (we all know what really matters and it ain’t the card). That people want to defend this as “not everything is perfect” tells you there is no real coherent argument for how this makes a lick of sense. The raw card version can be spun, but this is sillier than a purple sticker and clearly does nothing.
There is no way it is sillier than a purple sticker.
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Old 09-01-2022, 07:27 PM
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Awesome, one. That’s actually the highest total I’ve seen yet. This program isn’t doing anything but route cash to PSA to… authenticate the plastic holder (we all know what really matters and it ain’t the card). That people want to defend this as “not everything is perfect” tells you there is no real coherent argument for how this makes a lick of sense. The raw card version can be spun, but this is sillier than a purple sticker and clearly does nothing.
To repeat. I was involved helping someone who had a PSA 9 major rookie card in what was pretty clearly a fake slab. PSA instead of identifying it as such so he could get his money back from a major auction gave it a new cert number and reholdered it. I don't trust them to spot fakes. Certainly, during the period it was more of a problem (on certain cards, never across the board), they didn't issue any guidance to collectors.
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Awesome, one. That’s actually the highest total I’ve seen yet. This program isn’t doing anything but route cash to PSA to… authenticate the plastic holder (we all know what really matters and it ain’t the card). That people want to defend this as “not everything is perfect” tells you there is no real coherent argument for how this makes a lick of sense. The raw card version can be spun, but this is sillier than a purple sticker and clearly does nothing.
But you and I are the heavies for opposing a program aimed at weeding out fraud. LOL.
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But you and I are the heavies for opposing a program aimed at weeding out fraud. LOL.
A program aimed at weeding out fraud would, of course, actually look at the card, the item we are ostensibly buying, and not it’s plastic holder. It’s pretty hard to be a reasonable person and a PSA shill these days, but there is no lack of effort.

This program is great if you own part of PSA. The raw version I disagree with but there is a reasoned argument for. The graded version here is clearly designed to not actually do anything - PSA won’t do any review that would make them have to fulfill their guarantee and pay out on the thousands and thousands of mistakes and frauds they’ve certified and continue to certify.
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You should think the worst in people to get along here.
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Old 09-01-2022, 07:03 PM
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Says a man who has never posted a complaint, surely.
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