CSG status

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I know they've been at it for a while now, I know they have a deal with PWCC, I know they are authenticating for ebay, and I know the head grader had a mostly favorable reputation from his Beckett days. But I have to say, when their cards come up in searches, I don't even look still. What are others doing and if people are buying them what are your opinions?

I don't have a 1. Wouldn't mind breaking my Cherry

[jakebeckleyoldeagleeye]

The same guys that ditz CSG also said Amazon will never compete with Walmart.

[BobbyStrawberry]

I'd love to see them learn how to properly set a tobacco card in their slab. PSA also is inconsistent about this...

[Lorewalker]

While it is only one man's opinion, happened to stumble upon this https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...507423&page=24, the other day. See the short discussion from post 587 and on midway down the page.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I don't know for sure who that poster is, but there is no question from his body of work on Blowout that he is knowledgeable. That of course doesn't make him right on this matter of opinion, but it's concerning particularly as it relates to vintage.

[Lorewalker]

Even with a name, I take posts with a grain of salt. Just the other day, a regular on this board posted that the dude who allegedly stole cards from Gizmo had been arrested. When asked 3 times to show proof he has yet to post again.

I thought the posts on BO were interesting. I cannot speak to their accuracy. For all I know he hates Andy Broome because Andy got the head grader job at CSG.

[JustinD]

The original design was so god awful, I cracked anything with those green labels. I still would not pay a premium over ungraded, but would leave the cards in for the protection with the new design.

I don’t trust grading services but do buy graded cards. I have learned through experience that I will consider all cards with the perception they are ungraded and bid on my personal opinion. Although as it is my favorite case, I do enjoy the BVG cards.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

While it is only one man's opinion, happened to stumble upon this https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...507423&page=24, the other day. See the short discussion from post 587 and on midway down the page.

I have known Andy B for around 25 yrs and have spent many hours with him talking about grading. He is the best I have seen though I think there are a few senior graders at PSA that are really good too. Andy, while at BVG, did the scientific homework on my Yum Yum when SGC couldn't. OF course PSA agreed with Andy and put it in a 1 holder too. And there are more instances like this. I definitely would trust PSA and CSG over SGC for vintage, but that is just me.
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[GasHouseGang]

I wouldn't say I'm a fan of CSG, but during the pandemic when the wait to get anything graded by PSA was over a year, some collectors submitted cards to CSG and then sold them on Net54. Here are a few I picked up. The green flip actually kind of works with these cards.

[1952boyntoncollector]

As time goes on and if they stick to doing a good job and dont sell out and lower standards or other sheniangians they got a good chance to keep getting more of a following.

[Eric72]

Consider this purely hypothetical situation:

There are four identical copies of card #123 from the 1919 Super Duper Ball Card set. Same grade, same centering, etc., etc.

One is in a PSA holder, another SGC, one CSG, and one BVG. Asking prices below, and they're from the same seller...so your wheeling & dealing will amount to the same discount, if any.

PSA: $500
SGC: $450
CSG: $300
BVG: $300

Which one would you buy?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Leon

I have known Andy B for around 25 yrs and have spent many hours with him talking about grading. He is the best I have seen though I think there are a few senior graders at PSA that are really good too. Andy, while at BVG, did the scientific homework on my Yum Yum when SGC couldn't. OF course PSA agreed with Andy and put it in a 1 holder too. And there are more instances like this. I definitely would trust PSA and CSG over SGC for vintage, but that is just me.
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That is great to hear Leon. And at least you put your name to your opinion. Easy to talk BS when nobody knows who you are. As stated above, I imagine that CSG is doing a much better and more ethical job than both PSA and SGC.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

That is great to hear Leon. And at least you put your name to your opinion. Easy to talk BS when nobody knows who you are. As stated above, I imagine that CSG is doing a much better and more ethical job than both PSA and SGC.

My guess is we see some more from CSG. Stay tuned...
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[rugbymarine]

I just purchased my first CSG slab recently. High grade, modern-ish basketball. I was impressed with the slab, and the accuracy of the grade. The cards cost about 20% of the same grade in a PSA holder.

In the interest of 'buy the card, not the holder', I've been adding CSG to my searches and would feel comfortable buying them. In my mind, if I can acquire cards I'm looking for at a significant discount, I'll certainly consider it.

I will say that since they aren't as established as a grading company, I spend a lot more time zooming in on cards to see if the grade is 'correct' to my eyes.