Question for set collectors.

[53toppscollector]

I would consider an uncut sheet as its own unique item. Once the cards are separated, then they are each individual items (handcut items)

[MikeGarcia]

... For years I've resisted the idiotic temptation to take this to a nearby printers' shop and have them cut it perfectly in order to hold in my hand that fabulous sheet-fresh Buddy Rosar , but guys on here keep talking me out of it.


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,.don't cut it. IMO

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[brianp-beme]

My thought on uncut panels and sheets is...if they made it this far without being sliced up, they deserve to remain so.

Unfortunately as a set collector that would mean seeking out a Foxx some kid tore/scissored out 90 years ago. Such is the collecting life.

Brian

[BobC]

Thanks for the responses so far.

And just so you guys know, I have absolutely no inclination or intention to cut the complete sheets up just to get a single card of Foxx to put in my set binder. I long ago came up with the idea of making colored copies of graded cards I acquired to then put into binders with the rest of the cards in my sets. And I don't have any problem doing the same with this W560 card of Foxx.

My question to all of you is, can I go ahead and check off the Foxx card from my check/want list for this set after all then, since I technically do have the card, just in an uncut sheet form. Or should I continue keeping an eye out for, and eventually acquire a single Foxx card by itself, before truly considering that I've completed my W560 set?

[JollyElm]

Being unfamiliar with the set, were 'all' of these cards hand cut? Or were they issued as individual cards? Either way, your set is complete. It will just be a bit of an annoyance in the back of your mind.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Being unfamiliar with the set, were 'all' of these cards hand cut? Or were they issued as individual cards? Either way, your set is complete. It will just be a bit of an annoyance in the back of your mind.

Hey Darren,

This is a multi-subject strip card set that includes actors and other sports athletes in it, not just baseball players. They were printed and distributed in sheets, and have a playing card theme to them, so they were intended to be cut out so they could literally be treated as a deck of cards. Jimmy Foxx's card was one of the jokers in the set/deck. So yes, all single cards out there are hand cut.

[Leon]

My personal opinion is you can count an individual card by having the sheet. Heck, you have it in original form...to me it's a card which comes on a sheet of cards.

That all said, I am not a set collector so, I will defer to those that do collect them for some kind of unofficial ruling.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hey Darren,

This is a multi-subject strip card set that includes actors and other sports athletes in it, not just baseball players. They were printed and distributed in sheets, and have a playing card theme to them, so they were intended to be cut out so they could literally be treated as a deck of cards. Jimmy Foxx's card was one of the jokers in the set/deck. So yes, all single cards out there are hand cut.

I agree that you had the complete set either way, but this makes it a slam dunk IMHO.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

My thought on uncut panels and sheets is...if they made it this far without being sliced up, they deserve to remain so.

Unfortunately as a set collector that would mean seeking out a Foxx some kid tore/scissored out 90 years ago. Such is the collecting life.

Brian

I stand by my official "I'm a set collector" ruling...time to go and find an individual W560 Foxx. I feel like you would always be annoyed (like I would) that you don't have that card separately.

Brian

[Casey2296]

I vote complete, you just need a Big Ol' Penny Sleeve...

I'd still be on the lookout for a single though.

[spec]

IMHO, as someone who has collected for 65 years, one of the joys of card collecting is that there are no rules. Each of us makes our own definitions for what we collect, whether it be what constitutes "completion," what we consider a "rookie" card, whether to pursue variations and printing anomalies as well as how to differentiate those two often overlapping distinctions, etc. We also decide what condition satisfies us and whether to collect raw, graded or a mixture of the two. The only reservation I would offer is that if you go to sell your W560 set, you would have to include your uncut sheet to advertise it as "complete."
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[abothebear]

I'd consider it complete, for sure.

But I'd also grab the next individual Foxx card I could and finish out the binder set.

[cubman1941]

I agree with this solution. I have had a "set" with one of the cards being in an uncut sheet but every time I would look at that "set" the hole created by not having the one card really bothered me so I went ahead and found the card and then considered my set complete. However, there is no right answer just personal preference.

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I stand by my official "I'm a set collector" ruling...time to go and find an individual W560 Foxx. I feel like you would always be annoyed (like I would) that you don't have that card separately.

Brian

[nineunder71]

Hey Bob,
Great topic, awesome post!

I have long collected the strip cards and have an affinity for the uncut strips, sheets, etc.

My collecting of these has gone a couple different ways. First, I put together the W515-2 set, all 60 individual cards. Then I found a really neat 3 card uncut strip in great condition. For some reason, I sold off the three individual ones. Later, I acquired a different 5 card uncut strip and again sold off the individual ones. That is how my ‘set’ currently stands. I still have all 60 cards, but not all are individual examples. BTW: I cherish those uncut strips the most, and always cringe when I read about people cutting them up, but to each there own.

Similarly, I put together the W513 set, all individual examples (baseball players only) But then, I acquired a full 25 card uncut sheet, which is half the set in uncut form. It was so much cooler than the individuals, I sold off all the individuals in the whole set and vowed to find the other 25 card uncut sheet to complete the entire set. It took 6 years, but I did find the other uncut sheet eventually.

In the end, its up to each individual collector. I’m guessing you will acquire the individual Foxx some day, and then you have the best of both worlds....Good Luck to ya Bob and Happy Collecting All!

Colton

P.S. - I will try to post some scans of the W515-2s soon. I struggle to upload pics here, but if I can figure that out, I will post the W513s as well

[Snowman]

This topic reminds me of perforated cards too. I have a perforated vintage soccer sticker that I bought that had some residual paper attached to the top of it from when someone tried to tear it out from the page. The moment it arrived, I cracked it out from the case and tore off the excess paper. My OCD-induced anxiety was immediately relieved.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by nineunder71

Hey Bob,
Great topic, awesome post!

I have long collected the strip cards and have an affinity for the uncut strips, sheets, etc.

My collecting of these has gone a couple different ways. First, I put together the W515-2 set, all 60 individual cards. Then I found a really neat 3 card uncut strip in great condition. For some reason, I sold off the three individual ones. Later, I acquired a different 5 card uncut strip and again sold off the individual ones. That is how my ‘set’ currently stands. I still have all 60 cards, but not all are individual examples. BTW: I cherish those uncut strips the most, and always cringe when I read about people cutting them up, but to each there own.

Similarly, I put together the W513 set, all individual examples (baseball players only) But then, I acquired a full 25 card uncut sheet, which is half the set in uncut form. It was so much cooler than the individuals, I sold off all the individuals in the whole set and vowed to find the other 25 card uncut sheet to complete the entire set. It took 6 years, but I did find the other uncut sheet eventually.

In the end, its up to each individual collector. I’m guessing you will acquire the individual Foxx some day, and then you have the best of both worlds....Good Luck to ya Bob and Happy Collecting All!

Colton

P.S. - I will try to post some scans of the W515-2s soon. I struggle to upload pics here, but if I can figure that out, I will post the W513s as well

Yes, please post pics when you have a chance.

[commishbob]

Not a chance in hell I'd cut up the sheet, even for the Foxx to finish the binder set. Now, whether or not you can say the set is 'finished'... I'd consider it 'complete' but I can see the argument the other way. Interesting question, and I'm interested in what others have to say.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by commishbob

Not a chance in hell I'd cut up the sheet, even for the Foxx to finish the binder set. Now, whether or not you can say the set is 'finished'... I'd consider it 'complete' but I can see the argument the other way. Interesting question, and I'm interested in what others have to say.

Thanks Bob,

You see my dilemma. LOL For whatever reason, I just can't imagine the set as complete in my own mind without having a separate, single Foxx card as well. That is why I thought I'd ask and see what opinions others had. Hopefully more people will weigh in.