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Old 08-01-2022, 01:56 PM
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Could be good as they stated they would be looking at new locations but I also threw up in my mouth a little when the new President of the NSCC said in the article…

“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Not sure if this means dealer space will be lowered for more corporate stuff which I really hope wouldn’t be the case
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Could be good as they stated they would be looking at new locations but I also threw up in my mouth a little when the new President of the NSCC said in the article…

“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Not sure if this means dealer space will be lowered for more corporate stuff which I really hope wouldn’t be the case
That's exactly what's happening I believe.
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That's exactly what's happening I believe.
That would really suck.
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Great news, some new blood and ideas will be good.
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I heard that next year has so much corporate space that the dealers are basically being pushed out of the main room and into the antechamber. In some ways that is great: it always was a PITA to have to cross the corporate desert to get to the card tables.

Face it, folks: we vintage-oriented collectors are not the market movers. Postwar and modern is king.
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Could be good as they stated they would be looking at new locations but I also threw up in my mouth a little when the new President of the NSCC said in the article…

“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Not sure if this means dealer space will be lowered for more corporate stuff which I really hope wouldn’t be the case

What about the embracing the collectors?


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Could be good as they stated they would be looking at new locations but I also threw up in my mouth a little when the new President of the NSCC said in the article…

“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Not sure if this means dealer space will be lowered for more corporate stuff which I really hope wouldn’t be the case
+1 Agree but it is an interesting read
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I realize two trips is probably a lot for many dealers, and if they ain’t at both, then it would mean two trips for collectors to see it all, but why isn’t there two nationals: this nation is too big for only one, especially with interest up. Is there money in running a convention? It seems like someone could do this. Especially if it was in Las Vegas. It probably wouldn’t be too difficult to overtake the current National as the primary one that everyone went to. Free idea.
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Apparently jprs also bought out Uncle Dicks, as I saw some hybrid table this year
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Apparently jprs also bought out Uncle Dicks, as I saw some hybrid table this year
Jim bought DeCourcey’s business in 2019 but Dick still sets at shows in Florida,etc and with Jim at other shows when he desires.

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Old 08-01-2022, 04:11 PM
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The corporate booths waste so much space. I visited the auction houses but skipped over everything else. Would love a Modern and Vintage National so collectors and dealers could choose what’s worthwhile for them.
Even so I greatly enjoyed this year’s National, lots of prewar and vintage. Great conversations with dealers. The busiest tables were absolutely the modern junk so that tells you where the hobby is going.
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Someone really needs to start up a new collector-friendly “National”. Competition is a very good thing… especially considering where this hobby (I mean business) is headed.
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yes...segregation is the answer!!!!! put all the vintage together!!!!
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At least in my business the corporate/large sponsors help subsidize the cost of the convention. I suspect it will not get any smaller.
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I don't understand what these leaders don't get about THE NATIONAL SPORTS COLLECTORS CONVENTION. There's nothing in that which says the dealers convention. Collector's is the key word. Possibly someday the leaders can get their brain to understand that. I doubt it though.
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I spoke with a dealer last week who was set up for the second time (AC and Chicago 2021). Apparently, he was told that he couldn’t get a booth next year and would be on the waiting list because the corporate area was being expanded. Needless to say, he wasn’t happy…

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The National seems to be transitioning to mostly modern cards, trade nights, breaks, etc,... so why not create separate Nationals in different locations for vintage, for modern, trade nights, etc,... The Dallas show has about 600 tables, so why not make that a modern National, since I've heard it is almost entirely modern cards.

There used to be a vintage only show up in New York state in the 1990's (?), where the promoter said nothing on dealer tables after 1976 or something like that. And, there used to be a "sports equipment" show in the 1990's in the Baltimore & Washington, DC areas (signs, bats, gloves, uniforms, pennants, etc,...) organized by Washington Senators collector & broadcaster Phil Wood.

Everyone has a different perspective on where the National should be and with a new promoter, it will be interesting to see where they have it in 2024 and 2025.
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The corporate booths were the one area you could actually easily walk around this year. The dealers were swamped. So who are the collectors coming to see?

If Joe can do for the National what he has done for Philly it should be a good thing, but the corporate statement is a little scary.

I didn't get a booth next year which is obviously massively disappointing after having a booth this year.
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If I were making decisions about where to host the National, I would just do 2 shows per year. An east coast and a west coast show. Obviously, the east coast show would be the bigger one, but why not host 2 shows per year? Surely, enough dealers would come to a west coast winter national to make having one worthwhile. Vegas? LA? Maybe in January while the NFL Playoffs are on and the NBA season is in full swing? I know I'd go.
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“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Well, nobody has mentioned the "F" word in the room... Maybe Fanatics will have a larger exposure???
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“I’m here to represent the dealers and what’s best for the dealers. But at the same time, we need to embrace corporate, because the world’s changing, it’s booming. There’s NFTs, there’s apps, there’s all types of things. But I think the thing we need to do is embrace corporate.”

Well, nobody has mentioned the "F" word in the room... Maybe Fanatics will have a larger exposure???
You beat me to it. I was going to post "Welcome to the National Sports Collectors Convention presented by Fanatics". It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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You beat me to it. I was going to post "Welcome to the National Sportscard Investors Convention presented by Fanatics". It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

I fixed that for you
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Jprs already has what they bill as the "east coast national" though it pales in comparison
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