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Old 07-27-2022, 10:12 PM
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That is the story of his career and health the last several years.
Hopefully he overcomes it
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So...Is he IN...if he never plays again?

I say definitely! For a decade, he was the best.


Compare him to Puckett, etc.



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So...Is he IN...if he never plays again?

I say definitely! For a decade, he was the best.


Compare him to Puckett, etc.



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Absolutely, imo. Agreed - the best hitter in the game for a decade (or close to it).
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Even with only 8 real seasons, if he never plays a game again I think he would be elected in his first year of eligibility and deservingly so.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:38 AM
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What could possibly keep him out? He won three MVPs and was the single best player in the entire league for his entire career.

He is already ranked the 5th best centerfielder of all time. The names ahead of him:

Willie Mays
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Mickey Mantle

The names immediately below him:

Ken Griffey Jr.
Joe DiMaggio

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Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever take anything for granted in baseball. Cautionary tail to prospectors and to all the people on Blowout deifying guys after two seasons or even less.. Acuna indeed.

Is he in, yes of course, but still looks likely to end up a what might have been.
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What could possibly keep him out? He won three MVPs and was the single best player in the entire league for his entire career.

He is already ranked the 5th best centerfielder of all time. The names ahead of him:

Willie Mays
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Mickey Mantle

The names immediately below him:

Ken Griffey Jr.
Joe DiMaggio
What idiot ranks him ahead of Jr.

Not a chance.

630 HRs to 334 HRs

10 consecutive Gold Gloves to Trout's NONE

Not to mention Trout's whopping 1 playoff Series - batting .083

and he couldn't hit the best pitchers of his era (Kershaw, Scherzer & Verlander).

PLEASE

I wouldn't even put him ahead of DiMaggio, but he'll scrap up enough stats with whatever he has left to possible approach Joe D.

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That’s from baseball reference. It’s their ranking.
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Even with only 8 real seasons, if he never plays a game again I think he would be elected in his first year of eligibility and deservingly so.
From this is where I used the 8 example..

thus I wanted to see what we thought the cutoff was in years or in counting stats... you not going to hit 500 homers in 8 years obviously or get 3000 hits... but there could be lesser HOF counting stats for careers cut short for the right injury or right reason...

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Absolutely, imo. Agreed - the best hitter in the game for a decade (or close to it).
what if he played only 6 years. but won all those mvps and all years an all star etc.. how many years is the cutoff?
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what if he played only 6 years. but won all those mvps and all years an all star etc.. how many years is the cutoff?
I don't have an answer on that.
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Right because if he played 8 years...how is 8 years make the cutoff?

I have not looked up sandy koufax but his career was cut short due the right type of injury and everyone agrees hes a HOF, also untimely deaths can play a role or perhaps descriminiation leading to less major league service

but unlike sandys injury if its just a bad knees or back pain etc...not sure how 8 years is enough unless the stats themselves almost look like 13 year stats or whatever amount....
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Why are you asking about 8 years?
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what if he played only 6 years. but won all those mvps and all years an all star etc.. how many years is the cutoff?
10 I think.
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