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Old 07-28-2022, 12:34 PM
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Even with only 8 real seasons, if he never plays a game again I think he would be elected in his first year of eligibility and deservingly so.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:38 PM
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What could possibly keep him out? He won three MVPs and was the single best player in the entire league for his entire career.

He is already ranked the 5th best centerfielder of all time. The names ahead of him:

Willie Mays
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Mickey Mantle

The names immediately below him:

Ken Griffey Jr.
Joe DiMaggio
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Old 07-28-2022, 04:51 PM
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Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever take anything for granted in baseball. Cautionary tail to prospectors and to all the people on Blowout deifying guys after two seasons or even less.. Acuna indeed.

Is he in, yes of course, but still looks likely to end up a what might have been.
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Old 07-28-2022, 06:08 PM
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What could possibly keep him out? He won three MVPs and was the single best player in the entire league for his entire career.

He is already ranked the 5th best centerfielder of all time. The names ahead of him:

Willie Mays
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Mickey Mantle

The names immediately below him:

Ken Griffey Jr.
Joe DiMaggio
What idiot ranks him ahead of Jr.

Not a chance.

630 HRs to 334 HRs

10 consecutive Gold Gloves to Trout's NONE

Not to mention Trout's whopping 1 playoff Series - batting .083

and he couldn't hit the best pitchers of his era (Kershaw, Scherzer & Verlander).

PLEASE

I wouldn't even put him ahead of DiMaggio, but he'll scrap up enough stats with whatever he has left to possible approach Joe D.
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That’s from baseball reference. It’s their ranking.
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That’s from baseball reference. It’s their ranking.
I think a couple of things work against Griffey in the metrics, his huge seasons were ones where quite a few guys also had huge seasons, thus only one MVP. Also after his first year in the NL his numbers were markedly lower than they had been.
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Old 07-28-2022, 07:35 PM
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I think he’s using JAWS here.

Griffey is slightly ahead of Trout in total WAR still, though WAR really is designed around the current game.
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I think he’s using JAWS here.

Griffey is slightly ahead of Trout in total WAR still, though WAR really is designed around the current game.
I think it was designed around Trout. Seriously. Or at the very least his game was suited to maximize his WAR.
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Even with only 8 real seasons, if he never plays a game again I think he would be elected in his first year of eligibility and deservingly so.
From this is where I used the 8 example..

thus I wanted to see what we thought the cutoff was in years or in counting stats... you not going to hit 500 homers in 8 years obviously or get 3000 hits... but there could be lesser HOF counting stats for careers cut short for the right injury or right reason...
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