What's up with Mike Trout?

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

What happens if his career tails off and does NOT become the great legendary HOF player that everyone thought ?

Most...or at least a majority, feel like he's already in.

After all, if what has come before - 10 years - was his peak - that's about two or three seasons longer than most players' peaks...IMO


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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Most...or at least a majority, feel like he's already in.

After all, if what has come before - 10 years - was his peak - that's about two or three seasons longer than most players' peaks...IMO


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He is probably in I agree but he will never be a Great/Legendary HOFer if he does not get to the playoffs and does something there.

He is hidden in plain sight on a bad team and that will prevent him from becoming truly Legendary

[packs]

How could he ever not make the HOF? What would keep him out? There are only 2 players who won 3 or more MVPs who are not in the HOF and they are Bonds and A-rod.

I also think its interesting people are so wrapped up in who Trout plays for. Tony Gwynn DID play on 3 Padres playoff teams, 2 of which DID go to the World Series, but he played for mediocre or worse Padres teams for 17 other years.

[Peter_Spaeth]

How many World Series did Ted Williams make/win? 1/0. Is Ted Williams a legend?

[packs]

Griffey played 18 career play off games and is still one of the most recognizable players to multiple generations of fans.

Who cares if Trout plays for the Angels. I know you weren't watching Mariners west coast games in the 90s either. But you still loved Griffey.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Tyrus Raymond Cobb hit .262 in three losing Series, none in the last 19 years of his career.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

He is probably in I agree but he will never be a Great/Legendary HOFer if he does not get to the playoffs and does something there.

He is hidden in plain sight on a bad team and that will prevent him from becoming truly Legendary

Ernie Banks?


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[packs]

Miguel Cabrera has 500 home runs, 3,000 hits, won a triple crown and 4 batting titles. He played for a World Series championship team as a rookie and hit 167 in the series.

He is one of the greatest players ever to play the game anyway.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Ernie Banks?


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Ernie Banks is Great but to the masses is he considered(not just in his Home Team) on the same level of Mays, Aaron, Robinson, Ruth, Mantle, Cobb, Wagner, etc?

Sadly the greatness is often included with championships, with play off heroics because that is what the people see, hear , or read (depending on the era), social media etc that creates the buzz and enhances those heroics

[packs]

Total combined seasons in which Cobb and Wagner played in the postseason: 5 total seasons

Total combined seasons they did not appear in the postseason: 40 seasons

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by packs

Total combined seasons in which Cobb and Wagner played in the postseason: 5 total seasons

Total combined seasons they did not appear in the postseason: 40 seasons

Great point

but they are some of the Biggest and Earliest legends of the game and it was made in part from their personalities, the media and they even played each other in the World Series (and their is even a famous card with them shaking hands (1910 PC796 and 1909 W.W. SMITH POSTCARD)

[packs]

True but that meeting occurred in 1909. Cobb was 22 years old and it was the last time he ever appeared in a World Series. He played another 19 seasons for obscure Tiger and A's teams and is still one of the most recognizable names in the sport.

The point I'm trying to make is that greatness does not go overlooked and neither is Trout. If you follow baseball today, you know Trout is the king of the sport.