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Old 03-11-2022, 06:08 PM
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Did you read the underlying study and data Dale, or do you only do soundbites not studies? "They" do everything in "their" power. LOL And you still don't have even a basic understanding of the statistics and what they show, after it's been explained to you ad nauseum for months.
Speaking of ad nauseum. Despite what has been presented to you, all the flip flopping, the moving of goalposts, the back peddling, the lies, the censorship, you still don't get it.
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He has done WAY better than I thought. I kinda remember him from the late 90s. More for Pam Anderson than his music.

Dale how long have you felt/known that certain people wanted to take over the planet? Do you have other non traditional beliefs? If you have had these beliefs for several years have any taken place that changed how things happen long term?

It could also be a difference in perspective. Almost everything you call control I
see as an advancement for our society.
Ben, did you even take 5 minutes to look into/watch/read any of those things I posted or are you so knowledgeable and so cemented in your beliefs, you refuse to?
You're suggesting they are my very own thoughts, my own conspiracy theories like I made them up myself and I'm the only one who believes them.

Use Gooogle, duckduckgo, and read up on it. They are not hidden. Klaus Schwab, the head of WEF, even has his own vids talking openly about the things he wants to do.
Read the comments below the vid. I didn't write them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTnkzl3K64
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Old 03-11-2022, 06:27 PM
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Ben, did you even take 5 minutes to look into/watch/read any of those things I posted or are you so knowledgeable and so cemented in your beliefs, you refuse to?
You're suggesting they are my very own thoughts, my own conspiracy theories like I made them up myself and I'm the only one who believes them.

Use Gooogle, duckduckgo, and read up on it. They are not hidden. Klaus Schwab, the head of WEF, even has his own vids talking openly about the things he wants to do.
Read the comments below the vid. I didn't write them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTnkzl3K64
Honestly Dale I don't read any links in these beyond silly threads. We including me are just WAY too biased to be taken seriously.

I do enjoy the topics of conspiracy theories, paranormal, psychics, and the like. I find it extremely interesting on why people believe in such things and how long they have had those beliefs.
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Old 03-11-2022, 06:38 PM
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Honestly Dale I don't read any links in these beyond silly threads. We including me are just WAY too biased to be taken seriously.

I do enjoy the topics of conspiracy theories, paranormal, psychics, and the like. I find it extremely interesting on why people believe in such things and how long they have had those beliefs.
So, you just like throwing out insults and calling people conspiracy theorists without actually having anything to back up those innuendos just for something to do then, Ben?

I don't know about anyone else, but I find your behavior odd.
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Old 03-11-2022, 06:57 PM
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So, you just like throwing out insults and calling people conspiracy theorists without actually having anything to back up those innuendos just for something to do then, Ben?

I don't know about anyone else, but I find your behavior odd.
Dale you are the one calling your self names and have done it in several posts.

I have said my beliefs on Covid and the vaccine many times. Covid has killed several of my friends and has caused long term health problems for others including my brother. I am all for the vaccine and booster shots for those that want them. Pretty simple and consistent.

I didn't realize being called a conspiracy theorist was name calling. I used that term because of your posts about control, new world order, and similar posts about many different conspiracies.

I find the FACT you completely ignore every ones questions. Then just add more links from people I can't even fathom considering a legit source as extremely odd behavior.
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Old 03-11-2022, 07:51 PM
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Dale you are the one calling your self names and have done it in several posts.

I have said my beliefs on Covid and the vaccine many times. Covid has killed several of my friends and has caused long term health problems for others including my brother. I am all for the vaccine and booster shots for those that want them. Pretty simple and consistent.

I didn't realize being called a conspiracy theorist was name calling. I used that term because of your posts about control, new world order, and similar posts about many different conspiracies.

I find the FACT you completely ignore every ones questions. Then just add more links from people I can't even fathom considering a legit source as extremely odd behavior.
You should go back and refer to the question you asked me that I know you're talking about. It was answered because another member asked the same question prior to you. If you can't see that, then I can't help you but I'm not into repeatedly answering the same questions.
Some other questions, like I have replied to, are simply too silly to answer.
Other questions, it's like everyone wants me to be their newspaper for them. If I answered everyone's questions, they certainly wouldn't take any effort whatsoever in finding/researching things for themselves despite me telling them that numerous times over and over.
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Old 03-11-2022, 08:19 PM
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Dale, I don't disagree there's been a lot of inconsistency and sometimes bad messaging and policy from the government and political side. The reason I like and trust sites like sciencebasedmedicine, which I've read for many years, is that in my opinion the people there are not only brilliant and highly analytical but are agnostic and data-driven.
Well, that's all very well, Peter, but, and just a suggestion, I also think it might be a good idea to broaden your horizons a little with regards to the information you gather.

You know, just like in your article where Steven states "the benefits outweigh the risks", why is it not for us to decide that?
I can legally vote, legally drive, legally drink and do all sorts of other legal things as an adult but yet, based on the above statement, I can't choose what is injected into my body without punishment?
I think of my wife and son who both had no choice if they wanted to retain their job and finish college based on "the benefits outweigh the risks". Who are they to to decide that for them?
I honestly think if these vaccines weren't pushed so hard on people, more people would have likely gotten them?
Numerous people I know said the same thing and numerous double vaxxed people I know, once they seen the number of fully vaxxed still getting covid, said to hell with the boosters.

If the vaccines worked, nearly all populations worldwide would have gotten them and there would have been no need to force/coerce/lure/trick people into getting them. They would have sold themselves.

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Old 03-11-2022, 08:28 PM
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Well, that's all very well, Peter, but, and just a suggestion, I also think it might be a good idea to broaden your horizons a little with regards to the information you gather.

You know, just like in your article where Steven states "the benefits outweigh the risks", why is it not for us to decide that?
I can legally vote, legally drive, legally drink and do all sorts of other legal things as an adult but yet, based on the above statement, I can't choose what is injected into my body without punishment?
I think of my wife and son who both had no choice if they wanted to retain their job and finish college based on "the benefits outweigh the risks". Who are they to to decide that for them?
I honestly think if these vaccines weren't pushed so hard on people, more people would have likely gotten them?
Numerous people I know said the same thing and numerous double vaxxed people I know, once they seen the number of fully vaxxed still getting covid, said to hell with the boosters.

If the vaccines worked, nearly all populations worldwide would have gotten them and there would have been no need to force/coerce/lure/trick people into getting them. They would have sold themselves.
You can disrespect Dr. Novella all you want by patronizingly referring to him by his first name but the fact remains he is a very eminent physician and scientist. Not infallible but worthy of reading. I've read dozens of pieces by him on a wide variety of subjects how many have you read that entitles you to be so condescending? In any event, where did he say vaccines should be mandatory or that you or anyone else shouldn't have a choice? He recognizes people have a choice, he is suggesting they follow the data. You really seem to have a comprehension issue.

Again, read the study, and let's discuss specifics, instead of your usual evasions.
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Well, that's all very well, Peter, but, and just a suggestion, I also think it might be a good idea to broaden your horizons a little with regards to the information you gather.

You know, just like in your article where Steven states "the benefits outweigh the risks", why is it not for us to decide that?
I can legally vote, legally drive, legally drink and do all sorts of other legal things as an adult but yet, based on the above statement, I can't choose what is injected into my body without punishment?
I think of my wife and son who both had no choice if they wanted to retain their job and finish college based on "the benefits outweigh the risks". Who are they to to decide that for them?
I honestly think if these vaccines weren't pushed so hard on people, more people would have likely gotten them?
Numerous people I know said the same thing and numerous double vaxxed people I know, once they seen the number of fully vaxxed still getting covid, said to hell with the boosters.

If the vaccines worked, nearly all populations worldwide would have gotten them and there would have been no need to force/coerce/lure/trick people into getting them. They would have sold themselves.
I hope your wife and son are fully recovered from the side effects of their vaccinations
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