1909 Colgan’s Proofs back from SGC

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

SGC said the Wagner showed evidence of trimming. It is slightly off center, but since no one really knows anything about them with any certainty, I’m not so sure that I agree with their conclusion.

I disagree, as well. SGC says a lot of cards are 'trimmed' these days, including in my experience lately. I've resubmitted to PSA for number grades with success.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

I disagree, as well. SGC says a lot of cards are 'trimmed' these days, including in my experience lately. I've resubmitted to PSA for number grades with success.

Well, I'm kind of torn on this one now that I see the actual card again since its return.

There is a definite off-center issue, as well as a noticeable nick on the side.

I guess my concern with this one is more along the lines of, since no one has any solid info on them, do we know if they were hand-cut...or even how they were cut at all? If something was cut oddly by the manufacturer, isn't that different than "trimmed" by a recipient?

[Aaron Seefeldt]

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=58190

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=58190

I think it's a different, complete set related to the Colgan's chips also. As for it being from an early candy set. It could have been.
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[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=58190

Nice card….

I love when I acquire the only one known, and then another pops up!

Nice proofs, or whatever they are

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=58190

That's impressive! Although mine is an A, that gives me an idea of a value range.

[jbsports33]

Great group! Thanks for sharing - Congrats

Jimmy

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=58190

a little late to the party on this one but it's nice to know the story about these Fake Culligan man chips "Square Proofs" from people who have forgot more than I'll ever know about them.

Apparently, there are now "3" total across PSA & SGC. I can see another Fake Swamp find in the very near future uncovering 1000's of these things.

It's out "From the Dan Gantt collection" and "Into the FuddJcal collection" now at record prices like most crap I buy. Thanks again guys for sharing the story. I'm tickled to own it.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

a little late to the party on this one but it's nice to know the story about these Fake Culligan man chips "Square Proofs" from people who have forgot more than I'll ever know about them.

Apparently, there are now "3" total across PSA & SGC. I can see another Fake Swamp find in the very near future uncovering 1000's of these things.

It's out "From the Dan Gantt collection" and "Into the FuddJcal collection" now at record prices like most crap I buy. Thanks again guys for sharing the story. I'm tickled to own it.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by fake.

[BuzzD]

Here is an Engle NYAL. Sure looks like it was hand cut

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by BuzzD

Here is an Engle NYAL. Sure looks like it was hand cut

I agree, definitely looks hand cut. My personal feeling on these is that they came in some format that allowed a retailer to affix them to some kind of poster or promotional sign in their stores in order to promote the chips by showing what players will be available in the tins. I think that’s why there’s no advertising on the back and some have been found with glue residue of some type on them. I also think these are fairly rare as evidenced by the various pop reports.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by fake.

Just a fancy word I like to use when it's not exactly as it seems.