I simply do not understand Modern - Doncic vs Mantle

[ctownboy]

To me, the NBA has been rigged for years. Certain players (usually with big shoe contracts) get calls (or not) that other players do (or don't).

Doncic carried the ball once last night and the refs didn't call it. Later, he carried the ball again and was caught. He cried almost as much as LeBron cries. Later, he walked and the refs didn't call it.

Three obvious travelling violations and only one is called and Doncic cried about it.

This is why I don't watch any NBA games other than when the Pacers are playing.

David

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

To me, the NBA has been rigged for years. Certain players (usually with big shoe contracts) get calls (or not) that other players do (or don't).

Doncic carried the ball once last night and the refs didn't call it. Later, he carried the ball again and was caught. He cried almost as much as LeBron cries. Later, he walked and the refs didn't call it.

Three obvious travelling violations and only one is called and Doncic cried about it.

This is why I don't watch any NBA games other than when the Pacers are playing.

David

That's one of the things I strongly dislike about Doncic–he complains constantly despite being given the superstar treatment from the refs. At least LeBron and Steph Curry have earned it by being great for an extended period...

[Exhibitman]

Thats been the case forever. Look at the last last shot Jordan took against Utah--he basically shoved the defender to the ground (watch the hand on the hip) to clear his shot. Anyone not named "Jordan" gets a whistle.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Thats been the case forever. Look at the last last shot Jordan took against Utah--he basically shoved the defender to the ground (watch the hand on the hip) to clear his shot. Anyone not named "Jordan" gets a whistle.

I swear McHale walked every time he got the ball in the low post. Looks like Jordan also takes a shuffle step to the left after he stopped dribbling?

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I swear McHale walked every time he got the ball in the low post. Looks like Jordan also takes a shuffle step to the left after he stopped dribbling?

Yes, he definitely traveled there!

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Yes, he definitely traveled there!

It's called a "gather", and it's allowed.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Snowman

It's called a "gather", and it's allowed.

You have no idea what you're talking about. And I thought you put me on your ignore list? It appears your compulsion to assert your self-superiority has gotten the best of you yet again.

[Yoda]

Strange, I thought this Forum was all about prewar baseball cards.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Yes, he definitely traveled there!

That's true. I got the postcard a few days later.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Thats been the case forever. Look at the last last shot Jordan took against Utah--he basically shoved the defender to the ground (watch the hand on the hip) to clear his shot. Anyone not named "Jordan" gets a whistle.

The palming is ridiculous as well, but never gets called.

[familytoad]

I saw one of these rare cards at the mall show in Portland yesterday.
A collector buddy who deals with these high end shiny basketball had just made a big acquisition. Some Blue Prizm sumthin that he said was worth 20k.

So I asked him about Doncic and he did say that Luca was the best player in the league. And the potential to be an all-time great as long as he didn’t get hurt.

I wonder if he had an incentive to say that…considering what he was holding.

But I did explain that my collection of old baseball cards features guys that don’t have to worry about a knee or Achilles injury, since they are already dead.

[icurnmedic]

Originally Posted by familytoad

But I did explain that my collection of old baseball cards features guys that don’t have to worry about a knee or Achilles injury, since they are already dead.

This is exactly why I transitioned to vintage.
These younger and current players could lose value overnight by an injury, some political whatever, beating their spouse/ significant other, dog fighting etc..no bueno.

I’m sticking to the “real estate “ from now on.

[Rhotchkiss]

This thread has gotten off the rails a bit. To bring it back home some - I have a 13 year old who is real into modern, especially basketball and football and he likes “busting wax”. He asked to make a deal that if he made honor roll, would I get him a “good” wax box of cards. I asked him what “good” meant, and he considers “good” to be $500+. I told him I would be very proud if he got honor roll but there is no way I am buying him a $500 lottery ticket. I told him I would get him a card - at least that way we know he had something, rather than a chance at something.

Based on this thread, and although I consider all modern effective lottery tickets, we got a Ja Morant card. He appears to be 20% of the price of Doncic and based on this thread, he appears to be better than 20% the player. I think it’s a waste, but if my kid studies harder, keeps developing a work ethic, and has scholastic success, then that’s enough upside for me

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

This thread has gotten off the rails a bit. To bring it back home some - I have a 13 year old who is real into modern, especially basketball and football and he likes “busting wax”. He asked to make a deal that if he made honor roll, would I get him a “good” wax box of cards. I asked him what “good” meant, and he considers “good” to be $500+. I told him I would be very proud if he got honor roll but there is no way I am buying him a $500 lottery ticket. I told him I would get him a card - at least that way we know he had something, rather than a chance at something.

Based on this thread, and although I consider all modern effective lottery tickets, we got a Ja Morant card. He appears to be 20% of the price of Doncic and based on this thread, he appears to be better than 20% the player. I think it’s a waste, but if my kid studies harder, keeps developing a work ethic, and has scholastic success, then that’s enough upside for me

Good choice