Running list of 2022 Hobby Scams

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by egri

This thread reminded me of the fake signed T206 scandal from a few years ago. Has anyone heard anything about that lately?

I think you have your answer. If you check under the rug, I'll bet it's been swept under there.

[Johnny630]

Don’t like the price hahah extend the bidding by a day, call it a system wide glitch. These dummies continue to bid with them, why not do it when you think prices are to low as a AH. There is nothing to lose nobody besides us, which is a small percentage of buyers in this industry care. The dealers love this Sh&t they can mark up their cards more biased off these pumped up auction numbers.

It’s so comical.

[Snapolit1]

[QUOTE=Johnny630;2188612]Don’t like the price hahah extend the bidding by a day, call it a system wide glitch. These dummies continue you to bid and buy why not do it. There is nothing to lose nobody besides us, which is a small percentage of buyers in this industry care. The dealers love this Sh&t they can mark up their cards more biased off these pumped up auction numbers.

It’s so comical.[/QUOTE

Been here long enough to know that it all depends on who the player is in assessing the collective judgment. If this was done tonight people would be patting the AH on the back for going above and beyond with their customer service and offering their best wishes on how difficult a development this must have been for them. It all depends.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Been here long enough to know that it all depends on who the player is in assessing the collective judgment. If this was done tonight people would be patting the AH on the back for going above and beyond with their customer service and offering their best wishes on how difficult a development this must have been for them. It all depends.

Well, a reasonable solution would have been to extend bidding for an hour. But yes, the precedent has been set by all the DDOS failures over the past couple of years at Goldin, Heritage, etc that extending a day is now "SOP"; doesn't mean it shouldn't get scrutiny.
How do these cases hold up to the auction regulations in the states they're HQ'd in? Do they meet the requirements or are they skirting the law, just haven't been reported for it?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Don’t like the price hahah extend the bidding by a day, call it a system wide glitch. These dummies continue you to bid and buy why not do it. There is nothing to lose nobody besides us, which is a small percentage of buyers in this industry care. The dealers love this Sh&t they can mark up their cards more biased off these pumped up auction numbers.

It’s so comical.

Sounds like a cryptic reference to pwcc’s latest stunt.

[egri]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I think you have your answer. If you check under the rug, I'll bet it's been swept under there.

I figured as much. It's unfortunate.

[irv]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Tracking it over at Blowout. 7 major scandals already in only three weeks. Two multi-million dollar losses! Solid pace.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=17942920

Thanks for posting this up, John.

Curious, as I didn't see it, is there a vid of them opening the Pokeman box only to find G.I. Joe packs?
I seen a partial vid and that is it?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by irv

Curious, as I didn't see it, is there a vid of them opening the Pokeman box only to find G.I. Joe packs?

I think case owner Logan Paul's youtube video is going to be the best we're going to get, unless it is overturned to law enforcement. Even then, we might not see it.

[irv]

Originally Posted by swarmee

I think case owner Logan Paul's youtube video is going to be the best we're going to get, unless it is overturned to law enforcement. Even then, we might not see it.

Thanks for letting me know.

[swarmee]

Added a new one to the main post.

I am strongly of the opinion that no TPG should be certifying cards as authentic deserving a number grade without verifying that the autograph and patch are original to the card. Is this impossible? Possibly. Maybe patches are a bridge too far. But authentication is their #1 job, and they're getting it wrong so often it's ridiculous and customers need to demand better.

We know at least 10 players who either used autopens or had family members sign for them. Cards with streaky or faded autos are being wiped down and re-signed either by the original player or a forger. Autos are being re-touched by alterers.

Sticker autos are being added to base cards and scammers are printing "Panini Authenticated Auto" on the back. Patches are getting swapped for jersey pieces with more colorful patches on them, some straight from Wal-Mart.

None of the grading companies, to my knowledge, notify you that they do not authenticate the autos or patches despite grading the card. If so, it's buried 30 pages deep on their website. If they're not willing to authenticate the auto or patch are true and original, they should disclose that ON THE SLABS.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Added a new one to the main post.



I am strongly of the opinion that no TPG should be certifying cards as authentic deserving a number grade without verifying that the autograph and patch are original to the card. Is this impossible? Possibly. Maybe patches are a bridge too far. But authentication is their #1 job, and they're getting it wrong so often it's ridiculous and customers need to demand better.



We know at least 10 players who either used autopens or had family members sign for them. Cards with streaky or faded autos are being wiped down and re-signed either by the original player or a forger. Autos are being re-touched by alterers.



Sticker autos are being added to base cards and scammers are printing "Panini Authenticated Auto" on the back. Patches are getting swapped for jersey pieces with more colorful patches on them, some straight from Wal-Mart.



None of the grading companies, to my knowledge, notify you that they do not authenticate the autos or patches despite grading the card. If so, it's buried 30 pages deep on their website. If they're not willing to authenticate the auto or patch are true and original, they should disclose that ON THE SLABS.

Doesn't Topps state on their cards that all autographs are signed in front of a representative?

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