How will the impending lockout effect The Hobby?

[jsfriedm]

On its own I'm not sure it would impact high-end vintage too much, but combined with a significant Fed pullback causing a fall in asset prices, I think the impact could be significant.

[Rich Klein]

If History of 1994-95 is any guide AND this lasts a long-time expect vintage (to loosely mean 2005 or back to have a nice bump in interest and people collect the cards of earlier eras.

I know that's not everyone's definition of vintage but I'm going with the historical precedent here

Rich

[Snapolit1]

If those overpriced cry babies go on strike again that will be the last straw. Prices on cards will plunge. Baseball is dying already and no one cares. Another labor action will probably be the end of the national pastime as we know it. Kids today don't care about the game already. Most fans never came back after the last strike. One more strike like that and you wont be able to give away tickets to games.



(None of the above is true. Not one word of it. But I thought maybe I will save some other person from having to write it.)

[JollyElm]

Let me just say this. I had no idea that a lockout was even happening, and besides my Mets, I barely know the names of any other current major leaguers, so it's not going to have an affect on me at all. There are probably a helluva lot of other collectors who are in the same boat.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If those overpriced cry babies go on strike again that will be the last straw. Prices on cards will plunge. Baseball is dying already and no one cares.

Edited to remove everything I said, as I obviously did not read to Steve's last line. Well put...

[doug.goodman]

I don't collect much (if anything) that involves players who are currently locked out, and who could potentially go on strike after their lockout ends.

So, it won't really change anything about the hobby for me.

Doug

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If those overpriced cry babies go on strike again that will be the last straw. Prices on cards will plunge. Baseball is dying already and no one cares. Another labor action will probably be the end of the national pastime as we know it. Kids today don't care about the game already. Most fans never came back after the last strike. One more strike like that and you wont be able to give away tickets to games.



(None of the above is true. Not one word of it. But I thought maybe I will save some other person from having to write it.)

Just as a factual note; The OWNERS have LOCKED OUT the players. Please place blame on those who deserve this stoppage.

[bmattioli]

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[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by bmattioli

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[Seven]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Just as a factual note; The OWNERS have LOCKED OUT the players. Please place blame on those who deserve this stoppage.

I'm pro player I will say this though, it does get tiring about Millionaires, yelling at Billionaires though. Too much money has permeated the sport, (all sports really, and a handful of other things in life as well, but I'll keep the discussion on topic)

Related, what angers me the most are the things the guys in the Minors have to go through. I've read some horror stories, from wages, to lodgings, to means of travel. Is it so much to ask for the owners to pony up, and treat the minor leagues a bit better? Absolutely ridiculous. Though I hear the most recent agreement has made things a bit more livable for the players in the lower levels.

[Snapolit1]

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

[Snapolit1]

And I saw an interesting statistic recently that only 30% or so of major leaguers (can't remember the precise number) are actually making a million dollars.

[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

One of many baffling aspects.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

I don't want to be misunderstood, the Owners are the problem with this situation. Everything from how they abuse the luxury tax policies (from treating it as a salary cap, to just pocketing the money from revenue sharing), to manipulating players service time, to colluding to keep certain players out of the game (You're telling me no team could've used Bonds in 08?), the list goes on. I'm vehemently pro player, without them, well there is no baseball.