How will the impending lockout effect The Hobby?

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If those overpriced cry babies go on strike again that will be the last straw. Prices on cards will plunge. Baseball is dying already and no one cares. Another labor action will probably be the end of the national pastime as we know it. Kids today don't care about the game already. Most fans never came back after the last strike. One more strike like that and you wont be able to give away tickets to games.



(None of the above is true. Not one word of it. But I thought maybe I will save some other person from having to write it.)

Just as a factual note; The OWNERS have LOCKED OUT the players. Please place blame on those who deserve this stoppage.

[bmattioli]

https://springtrainingcountdown.com/

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by bmattioli

https://springtrainingcountdown.com/

The only app I have on my phone

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Just as a factual note; The OWNERS have LOCKED OUT the players. Please place blame on those who deserve this stoppage.

I'm pro player I will say this though, it does get tiring about Millionaires, yelling at Billionaires though. Too much money has permeated the sport, (all sports really, and a handful of other things in life as well, but I'll keep the discussion on topic)

Related, what angers me the most are the things the guys in the Minors have to go through. I've read some horror stories, from wages, to lodgings, to means of travel. Is it so much to ask for the owners to pony up, and treat the minor leagues a bit better? Absolutely ridiculous. Though I hear the most recent agreement has made things a bit more livable for the players in the lower levels.

[Snapolit1]

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

[Snapolit1]

And I saw an interesting statistic recently that only 30% or so of major leaguers (can't remember the precise number) are actually making a million dollars.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

And I saw an interesting statistic recently that only 30% or so of major leaguers (can't remember the precise number) are actually making a million dollars.

Doesn't surprise me. There are certainly many more making the minimum (or pretty close) than there are making 8 figures.

I have a buddy who made it to the bigs with the Tigers and Red Sox, if you include the time he spent in the minors and before, doing what he needed to do to make it to the bigs for little or no pay, I made more money in the same time frame as a roadie for bands you guys never heard of than he made as a professional baseball player.

But, he had Topps baseball cards, and I don't, so he wins.

[Exhibitman]

The only thing I know for sure about the lockout is that Clayton Kershaw will spend at least 60 days of it on the DL.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The only thing I know for sure about the lockout is that Clayton Kershaw will spend at least 60 days of it on the DL.

And DeGrom more than that, and Trout all of it.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The only thing I know for sure about the lockout is that Clayton Kershaw will spend at least 60 days of it on the DL.

Harsh! Hahahaha

[Leon]

A lockout would make no different at all to me. I never came back from the '94 one. I don't think it will affect vintage cards if there is one.

and a card...
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[Wanaselja]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

One of many baffling aspects.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It's a fascinating aspect of American culture that the man on the street always takes the side of the billionaire against the millionaire. Every time.

I don't want to be misunderstood, the Owners are the problem with this situation. Everything from how they abuse the luxury tax policies (from treating it as a salary cap, to just pocketing the money from revenue sharing), to manipulating players service time, to colluding to keep certain players out of the game (You're telling me no team could've used Bonds in 08?), the list goes on. I'm vehemently pro player, without them, well there is no baseball.

[Casey2296]

Every thread needs a card.
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[Johnny630]

I think baseball will start on time without the lock out affecting any of the regular season.