That SCP T206 Wagner

[npa589]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

Skinned cards are ~50% of a card and sometimes the front is thinner than what was skinned and therefore could be less than 50%. I have some OJ's where skinning removed a small percentage on the face of the card. Does that make skinned OJ's containing a nearly entire front but, less than 50% no longer a card?

If you cut a Wagner with scissors leaving 51% the bottom of the card and 49% the top then does only the bottom qualify?

If you "restored" the bottom half by adding 49% to the top you'd have a card worth less than the top restored with a bottom.

My point is that percentages and restorations will never be able have a standard metric. Cards, no matter how complete or doctored, slabbed or discussed are only as good as their appeal to buyers.

This is a really good point Eric

[drcy]

"If you cut a Wagner with scissors leaving 51% the bottom of the card and 49% the top then does only the bottom qualify?"

You have one card cut in two. Nothing's missing.

[scmavl]

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

Ouch! But not out of the question, for sure.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Ouch! But not out of the question, for sure.

I hate myself for almost liking that idea.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

Scary but I could see them doing something like that

[luciobar1980]

No way should a card like this (or any card, for that matter) be restored.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by luciobar1980

No way should a card like this (or any card, for that matter) be restored.

isn't there another wagner that's been heavily restored? like 1/3 of the card added?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

It won't be Topps it will be Fanatics and they will cut it into 100 pieces to maximize their ROI..
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[Fred]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

Nope, they'll cut it into 9 sections and encapsulate each one. Someone will buy the completely empty section for $10K. What an investment!

Heck, I'd pay $10K for the piece in the middle that is missing a small portion.

Wagner 9s.jpg

[scmavl]

Originally Posted by Fred

Nope, they'll cut it into 9 sections and encapsulate each one. Someone will buy the completely empty section for $10K. What an investment!

Heck, I'd pay $10K for the piece in the middle that is missing a small portion.

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If they did that, I bet someone would pay six figures for the square that has “WAGNER” and the “PITT” of his jersey.

[Vintagedeputy]

What if someone took a Wagner reprint card and cut it to fit, like a puzzle piece and then slabbed that? You'd still have the original Wagner unaltered and graded Authentic, but aesthetically more pleasing?

[npa589]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

What if someone took a Wagner reprint card and cut it to fit, like a puzzle piece and then slabbed that? You'd still have the original Wagner unaltered and graded Authentic, but aesthetically more pleasing?

If I were the owner of the card, that is what I would want to do as well...with no attention paid to its affect on the resale value of the card, but simply for aesthetic reasons. The uniqueness and lore of the Wagner is not able overwhelm my personal need for a little bit more of the card.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

Lol hi jarrod

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by scmavl

I'm waiting for Topps to buy it and cut it into 25 pieces, inserting it into relic cards. Then 25 more people could say "I own (part of) a T206 Wagner!"

I was going to toss this idea into the ring myself... except that I would have presented it as a legitimate suggestion.

After all, it's now becoming a "thing" where you have people buying "shares" of collectibles... for example, the British Guiana One Cent Magenta postage stamp, the most valuable item in the world in terms of weight. And I'm not saying this to be snarky, because I myself own one share...



Told ya!

Anyway, the thing is that even though I own a share of the stamp, I don't have physical ownership, whereas if this specific Wagner was used to make relic cards, everyone who had one would have actual physical ownership of their piece.

I'm not saying I endorse the idea, I was just going to throw it out as a suggestion... but I see that it wouldn't go over too well in this forum, so I'm just going to shut up and sit down.

[mrreality68]

It is time to see what the bids bring.

It opened for bidding earlier today and it is at $270k before buyers premium

What do we think the over/under is now

[Exhibitman]

I looked at it on the web site. No. I'd take it if someone offered it to me for a hundred bucks, but it is just too far gone to have any real appeal for me.

[pherbener]

Already over $300K!!

https://catalog.scpauctions.com/1909...-LOT50061.aspx

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by drcy

"If you cut a Wagner with scissors leaving 51% the bottom of the card and 49% the top then does only the bottom qualify?"

You have one card cut in two. Nothing's missing.

I think everyone understood the example.