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Old 12-06-2021, 11:29 AM
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Prices were breath-taking!

If anyone here won the T210-6 lot I am interested in acquiring some cards.

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Old 12-06-2021, 11:46 AM
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$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.
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Old 12-06-2021, 01:37 PM
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$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.
Sure wish I hadn't opened mine.
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Old 12-06-2021, 02:04 PM
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There were definitely some weird prices.

A '55 Topps Mays SGC 6 for $4,400????
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94057

This is is almost double the highest (in March 2021) shown for a PSA 6 on the PSA website:
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/179831#g=6

Meanwhile, a PSA 5 of the same card sold for $840:
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94056

I thought that the 11 (yes there were 11) Clemente rookies kind of cannibalized each other, especially in the low grades. An SGC 1.5 sold for only $990. I sold an SGC 1.5 on ebay for $1150 about an hour after I posted it a month ago.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94053

I would not have been pleased to have my Clemente rookie up against 10 others.

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Old 12-06-2021, 02:27 PM
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Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.
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Old 12-07-2021, 09:53 AM
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Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.
I had both of those cards. Sold the Cobb fielding a few years ago, not even close to that price. Cobb green half of that price, but was happy. Joe
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Old 12-07-2021, 10:09 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.
Those Wagners are absolutely MAGNIFICENT! My gosh, man ... not just having one ... but both ... and sets? Yowza x 1000!

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Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.
I think the general consensus is that Copper Plates were released before the Sporting News version, but your mention on both showing 1899 is something that frankly escaped me until you said something - great catch!

In any event, I still think that Copperplate somehow provided this artwork to Sporting News, which in turn, used it for their purposes, so mayhaps National Copperplate is a few months earlier than the Sporting News version? I don't think anyone would knock the Sporting News as being his rookie for that, though.

In any event, I would place them both as his rookie, with Sporting News being perhaps more desirable given the Sporting News pedigree, how it was released only for one day, and no holes. Maybe that's just me though, and heck, who on earth would complain about one over the other? It'd be like complaining about a Lamborghini having a slightly different shade of red
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Old 12-06-2021, 02:45 PM
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That’s an extremely nice 6 if you don’t mind a little surface chop. Must have been a couple of cowboys with neither one wanting to lose.
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Old 12-07-2021, 10:36 AM
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Glad to have snagged a N172 Griffith RC and the T206 Tinker Bat On, Old Mill back.
Prices were breathtaking. The 1921 Exhibit Ruth continues to shine and who knows how much higher it might head.
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Have we tricked ourselves in to thinking that certain cards are rare if they are pretty much available in every major auction offering? The only thing that has changed in recent years is the price that people are willing to pay...the cards with low populations are still available. Trade, yes...but hard to justify being a buyer for the blue chip stuff right now in my opinion...unless you sell what you have for a pile of money and then buy what you want for a pile of money.
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We always talk about REA's fast shipping, but the auction just ended Sunday night after midnight, and it's less than 36 hours later and the item I won is at my door. Love it!

1912 Red Sox spring training cabinet
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Have we tricked ourselves in to thinking that certain cards are rare if they are pretty much available in every major auction offering? The only thing that has changed in recent years is the price that people are willing to pay...the cards with low populations are still available. Trade, yes...but hard to justify being a buyer for the blue chip stuff right now in my opinion...unless you sell what you have for a pile of money and then buy what you want for a pile of money.
Rare cards are not selling in every auction, high demand cards are. Rarity and Demand do not always match up. I have several truly rare (under 5 known examples) cards I would swap for more mainstream cards of the same players. My cards 'should' be worth more, and they might be if I auctioned them off, but they might also not be and finding that out would make me sad, so I keep them.
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:50 AM
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Prices were breath-taking!

If anyone here won the T210-6 lot I am interested in acquiring some cards.

Many thanks,
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Same here! I was the 2nd (or 3rd) underbidder, but am interested in one card in particular if you are breaking them up.
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Old 12-06-2021, 11:55 AM
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I was glad to pick up 2 minor lots that I wanted for my collection, a lil more than I wanted to pay but it's REA and id been hunting for a while so didnt mind.

And as stated elsewhere, if anyone won the t210-2 lot id be interested in buying the 3 Richmond Colts cards off of you!
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Old 12-06-2021, 12:00 PM
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This auction makes you wonder what will prices be when spring time rolls around and we are at the traditional height of craziness about April or so.
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Old 12-06-2021, 12:08 PM
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I ended up winning 3 different tickets focused on Pittsburgh. Prices were very strong for those as well. If prices continue like this through 2022, I will probably have to shift focus or slow down a bit. Tickets are approaching stratospheric levels.

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I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).
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I picked up two non-sports sets for fair prices.
My big get was this M110 of Lajoie.
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I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).
The Goudey Ruth 144 was really nice but the centering was off a little. One like it that was centered, a few Memory Lane auctions ago, went for twice that. And if this one was centered the same it too would have gotten to that amount or close to it. It's all about centering, everything else being equal....and on 7s they usually are.
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I was actually surprised by the prices of a few key cards that seemed pretty weak to me, in particular the 1933 Goudey Ruths - especially the two PSA 7s, and the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookies (it seems like the price ratio of Mantle to Mays these days is now below 2:1).
Could that be because it seems every decent auction anymore has '33 Goudey Ruths, '52 Topps Mantles, '51 Bowman Mays and Mantle, and similar main cards in it, and that those that want them (and can afford the current inflated prices) already have them? If so, maybe the dealers and flippers have started to reach somewhat of a ceiling on those. Wouldn't be surprised to see that happening where there seems to be no limit to the numbers of "big" cards like these that always seem to be available for sale.

Meanwhile, maybe the focus, and higher prices, is starting to shift to the rarer, harder to find items of these players. Maybe not so much for Mantle and Mays, but definitely seems it could be the for Ruth cards. Especially since the Goudeys were so late in his career. There are tons of earlier Ruth cards for investors/flippers to look to.

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Old 12-06-2021, 02:54 PM
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I heard from my unopened collector pals that pack that went for $168K was won by either Marshall Fogel or Charles Merkel........and whichever was the winner, outbid the "notorious" Billionaire Nat Turner for it.

Also heard it is the only '54 Topps nickel pack ever to be graded by PSA. A true 1/1 on the PSA Registry (although I was told some GAI packs exist)
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I was very happy to get both of these, but I expected to pay quite a bit more for the Cobb and quite a bit less for Mr. Bender.
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I was very happy to get both of these, but I expected to pay quite a bit more for the Cobb and quite a bit less for Mr. Bender.
Love that Cobb!
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I heard from my unopened collector pals that pack that went for $168K was won by either Marshall Fogel or Charles Merkel........and whichever was the winner, outbid the "notorious" Billionaire Nat Turner for it.

Also heard it is the only '54 Topps nickel pack ever to be graded by PSA. A true 1/1 on the PSA Registry (although I was told some GAI packs exist)
Mine is a GAI 7.5 I know of at least one other GAI graded '54 dated pack.
there is a significant amount of '50's packs not in PSA holders.

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Landed a small score. However, I feel like a big winner considering the value growth of my current collection.

The 4 on 1 Exhibits have been growing on me. They have relatively low pop count.

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Blown away- on something i particulary think maybe 2-3 people even collect.(that i know of)
1916-20 UNC Big Head COBB went for (6600)---extreme scarcity!!
Last Heritage auction--was very strong!!
Wajo fetch (2640BP) & Ruth got (9900BP)
and the set of 15/20 (w/Hornsby) went for (3840BP)
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