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Old 10-07-2021, 03:11 PM
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Whats the buyers premium? A very nice E90-1 SGC 5 Joe Jackson just sold for $170k hammer. A T206 Green Cobb PSA 6 just sold for $50k hammer.
25%, although it drops with larger sized purchases.
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Old 10-07-2021, 03:51 PM
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wait until the winners see their additional charges (BP, Tax, extraordinary Shipping & Handling)

tack on another 30-40% to any winning bid you are looking at.

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wait until the winners see their additional charges (BP, Tax, extraordinary Shipping & Handling)

tack on another 30-40% to any winning bid you are looking at.
Guy who paid 1.2M for the Shoeless Joe photo might not care when Christies hits him up for $475 for shipping.

They do package damm good though. Will take you an hour to unpack it.
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Old 10-07-2021, 06:29 PM
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Guy who paid 1.2M for the Shoeless Joe photo might not care when Christies hits him up for $475 for shipping.

They do package damm good though. Will take you an hour to unpack it.
I agree that winner won't even notice it. But for many of the others who are unfamiliar with their shipping:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...ight=christies

and yah the nice job they do, I'd like to hire them to mail my Christmas cards.

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His signature quality sure did go down hill from 1911 to 1916.
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wow

Did not even realize that auction and had some very very nice stuff and some very rare items

Those prices were really strong to.
That autographed Joe Jackson photo 1.47 mil
1917 Chicago Whitesox team photo with Joe Jackson $14K
1919 Chicago Whitesox Team photo with joe jackson $33K
1925 Lou Gerhig Exhibit Card autographed $688K
1909 Joe Jackson rookie Card SGC 5 $213K
1928 Babe Ruth Exhibit Card Autographed $175K
1919 W514 Strip card Joe Jackson SGC 9 $50K

Just to name a few.

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Was there some kind of extraordinary provenance on the Jackson auto? I basically wouldn't trust anyone to authenticate one since what exactly serves as their exemplar file?
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Was there some kind of extraordinary provenance on the Jackson auto? I basically wouldn't trust anyone to authenticate one since what exactly serves as their exemplar file?
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I am not sure of all the Provence but this is the same one that sold on Heritage I believe in 2015 or 16 from the The Frank W. Smith Collection,
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I am not sure of all the Provence but this is the same one that sold on Heritage I believe in 2015 or 16 from the The Frank W. Smith Collection,
Cool, and I wasn't suggesting anything was going on, just that I don't know how you can authenticate an autograph when there's less than a handful that are even suspected of being legit. Clearly he never signed his name enough to develop ANY consistencies let alone enough to make solid comparisons. Hence my curiosity about the provenance.
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Cool, and I wasn't suggesting anything was going on, just that I don't know how you can authenticate an autograph when there's less than a handful that are even suspected of being legit. Clearly he never signed his name enough to develop ANY consistencies let alone enough to make solid comparisons. Hence my curiosity about the provenance.
I hope it’s real, bc if it is, it’s awesome. However, I know several people who are dubious about the authenticity of the auto; the feedback being the writing does not seem shaky enough for Joe Jackson’s signature. I was also told to question all Jackson signatures unless it was on a check of official document where it’s much harder to fake. The PSA authentication means little in my book.

Compare the one at Christie’s with the signatures on the two documents in these two articles.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spo...01nrodg07iw6eo

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ed-to-auction/
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I agree with you Ryan - I have trouble seeing how Jackson could have signed the photo that cleanly. I always heard he basically had to draw his signature on the rare occasions when he would sign.


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I hope it’s real, bc if it is, it’s awesome. However, I know several people who are dubious about the authenticity of the auto; the feedback being the writing does not seem shaky enough for Joe Jackson’s signature. I was also told to question all Jackson signatures unless it was on a check of official document where it’s much harder to fake. The PSA authentication means little in my book.

Compare the one at Christie’s with the signatures on the two documents in these two articles.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spo...01nrodg07iw6eo

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ed-to-auction/
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Was there some kind of extraordinary provenance on the Jackson auto? I basically wouldn't trust anyone to authenticate one since what exactly serves as their exemplar file?
It's also Christies, which I wouldn't blame people for having a difficult time trusting. Between their price fixing scandal, and their most recent lack of due-diligence when it came to provenance of Ancient Roman/Greek artifacts, I would be slightly skeptical at a minimum. Though comparing ancient artifacts, to a signature from Joe Jackson, would be like comparing Apples, to Oranges.

However as it was pointed out it already sold at auction once before.
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wow

Did not even realize that auction and had some very very nice stuff and some very rare items

Those prices were really strong to.
That autographed Joe Jackson photo 1.47 mil
1917 Chicago Whitesox team photo with Joe Jackson $14K
1919 Chicago Whitesox Team photo with joe jackson $33K
1925 Lou Gerhig Exhibit Card autographed $688K
1909 Joe Jackson rookie Card SGC 5 $213K
1928 Babe Ruth Exhibit Card Autographed $175K
1919 W514 Strip card Joe Jackson SGC 9 $50K

Just to name a few.

Alot of Great vintage Cards, bats, balls, photos and more
Imagine paying 1.47 million for a fake signature
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also that strip card Joe Jackson I know is an amazing card but $50k! WTF
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