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Old 07-05-2021, 09:31 AM
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I guess Lindros was in that category and didn't quite live up to it, he was very good but not the "Next One" as he was called. But it seems far fewer examples in hockey than other sports.

I guess taking all that money was a good idea at the time for McDavid, but man what a shame if it means he wastes the prime of his career on a mediocre team.
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Old 07-06-2021, 03:06 AM
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First hockey cards of any significance that I've ever gotten...on the way:

An '85-'86 OPC set. PSA 7 Lemieux and sharp raw 263/264 (bought separately).

Pics when it all gets here. Though since both packages are coming from Canada, that could be sometime this fall
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:42 AM
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I guess Lindros was in that category and didn't quite live up to it, he was very good but not the "Next One" as he was called. But it seems far fewer examples in hockey than other sports.

I guess taking all that money was a good idea at the time for McDavid, but man what a shame if it means he wastes the prime of his career on a mediocre team.
I'm bias, Pete, as I never missed a home game when Lindros played for the Oshawa Generals but due to injuries and the like, yeah, he most definitely had a shorter than normal career that definitely hurt his status in being one of the all time greats.

In all my life of watching hockey players come up, I've never seen the likes of the media attention that Lindros received.
Sure, the Quebec snub definitely played a huge part in that, as did his refusal to play for Sault St Marie, but the constant attention, the constant media, in your face attention this kid got was over the top, imo.

All that aside, he was definitely an exciting player to watch, the complete pkg.
He could score, he could pass, he could hit and of course he could fight. The complete package which hadn't been seen in years until he came along.
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I agree, Lindros could have been one of those if he wasn't injured/concussed. when healthy, he was unstoppable and a physical force more than any of the other greats. I remember one healthy game as a Ranger where he just picked a corner and scored, he had great hands too.
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I recall reading what led to Lindros' undoing is that he developed a bad habit of looking down which led to him not being prepared for some very bad hits and consequent injuries.

It also seemed maybe the circus, and his Mom trying to control his career, got to his head.
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I recall reading what led to Lindros' undoing is that he developed a bad habit of looking down which led to him not being prepared for some very bad hits and consequent injuries.

It also seemed maybe the circus, and his Mom trying to control his career, got to his head.
Yes, he admitted to skating to often with his head down but at the same time, due to other players buying into the media hype/hate, he also had a target on his back practically every time he stepped on the ice.
In an interview I seen with Scott Stevens, when asked about his hit on Lindros and his apparent dislike/hatred for him, you could see it clearly upset Stevens, and his words, "I don't want to talk about it", spoke volumes.

Like I said earlier, the whole circus was exactly that, a circus. Yes, his mom, Bonnie, or better known as the Bonster, didn't help nor did his father's but again, I think most everything was overblown and was likely nothing more, for the most part, any normal parents concern for their child.
Everyone seems to forget how young he was during this time. Yeah, he was huge, mature looking, etc, but he was still a kid with a lot to learn.

At the end of the day, even Bobby Clarke, when asked of his thoughts of Lindros, surprised everyone when he stated, all the Lindros nonsense is just baggage, nothing more, and when you cut all that away, Lindros was a dynamite hockey player.

I posted this before. Eric's explanation why he didn't want to play for the Nordiques's. Many thought he was just being a baby but he knew stuff about Marcel Abut that many others didn't and he said he couldn't play for a person like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1b3_u4c9U

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...ticle28179183/
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...l%20harassment.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/2...ives-1.3409544
https://nationalpost.com/sports/olym...he-was-a-minor
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His career was very short by NHL standards (why is it by the way SO many of these guys last 20 years or more in such a rough sport?), and to me his stats don't look so great, did he make the Hall of Fame for what he might have accomplished as distinct from what he did?

Fun article btw. I remember Lindros getting into it with the great Russian coach Tikhonov.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-...080-story.html
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His career was very short by NHL standards (why is it by the way SO many of these guys last 20 years or more in such a rough sport?), and to me his stats don't look so great, did he make the Hall of Fame for what he might have accomplished as distinct from what he did?

Fun article btw. I remember Lindros getting into it with the great Russian coach Tikhonov.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-...080-story.html
Like many ball players, you are going to have those that people think aren't deserving of the hall and just as many others that think they are.

Lindros has decent numbers, likely better than some in the hall who maybe had longer careers, but, imo, he deserves to be in for what he did/accomplished in such a short period in such a different style of game compared to today's game.

"Lindros, the first player selected in the 1991 NHL Draft, was dominant when healthy during his eight seasons with the Flyers, totaling 659 points (290 goals, 369 assists) in 486 regular-season games from 1992-93 through 1999-2000. He had 56 points in 50 Stanley Cup Playoff games and helped the Flyers reach the Final in 1997.

He was named to the League's All-Rookie Team in 1992-93 and won the Hart Trophy in the lockout-shortened 1994-1995 season, when he had 70 points in 46 games. The following season he had an NHL career-high 115 points in 73 games"


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