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Old 07-04-2021, 05:12 PM
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Dale, how do you assess his potential? Are we looking at a top 5 all time player for example?
I would think so, Peter. McDavid's skill and speed is through the roof to the likes of what we have never seen before.

When prior players like Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr all say the same thing about him and just shake their heads in amazement, it is undeniable he is an elite, one of kind, rare type of player.

If he manages to win a few cups or manages to play on a better skilled, more deeper skilled team sometime, the potential for him to be in the top 2-3 all time is there, imo.

With time marching on, however, and if the Oilers don't improve their squad significantly, we may all be denied to see what might have been, unfortunately.
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I would think so, Peter. McDavid's skill and speed is through the roof to the likes of what we have never seen before.

When prior players like Gretzky, Lemieux and Orr all say the same thing about him and just shake their heads in amazement, it is undeniable he is an elite, one of kind, rare type of player.

If he manages to win a few cups or manages to play on a better skilled, more deeper skilled team sometime, the potential for him to be in the top 2-3 all time is there, imo.

With time marching on, however, and if the Oilers don't improve their squad significantly, we may all be denied to see what might have been, unfortunately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djjkz9ygbMw
How long is he stuck on the Oilers?
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It's always interesting to me how in hockey more than any other sport (I think), they (whoever they are) seem to be able to pick out the superstars at an extremely young age. As I recall even back in the day where of course nothing remotely like today's technology existed, Orr was a known quantity even as an early teen. Presumably the same for Gretzky and Lemieux and Crosby.

At the other extreme, even at a much later age, the baseball draft is a crapshoot. For the most part you just have no idea who can consistently hit a major league curve ball until they face a major league curve ball, for one thing. Or who can lay off ball four.
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Old 07-04-2021, 07:49 PM
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How long is he stuck on the Oilers?
Signed through to the 25-26 season. $100 million contract.

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It's always interesting to me how in hockey more than any other sport (I think), they (whoever they are) seem to be able to pick out the superstars at an extremely young age. As I recall even back in the day where of course nothing remotely like today's technology existed, Orr was a known quantity even as an early teen. Presumably the same for Gretzky and Lemieux and Crosby.

At the other extreme, even at a much later age, the baseball draft is a crapshoot. For the most part you just have no idea who can consistently hit a major league curve ball until they face a major league curve ball, for one thing.
Kids/talent sticks out when you see them playing levels above their age group.
All those you mentioned are no different. All stood way out, shoulders above other players where they simply dominated games at an early age with multiple goal games each and every game.

Word gets around, scouts show up then the grooming begins all the way until the big show.
Of course there are also many late bloomers who end up being great as well, but I think the real superstars, for the most part, are known about at a real young age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXRbtyjKZtQ

Mitch Marner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmvOmw0GAwQ

Many vids available of other players as well.
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I guess Lindros was in that category and didn't quite live up to it, he was very good but not the "Next One" as he was called. But it seems far fewer examples in hockey than other sports.

I guess taking all that money was a good idea at the time for McDavid, but man what a shame if it means he wastes the prime of his career on a mediocre team.
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First hockey cards of any significance that I've ever gotten...on the way:

An '85-'86 OPC set. PSA 7 Lemieux and sharp raw 263/264 (bought separately).

Pics when it all gets here. Though since both packages are coming from Canada, that could be sometime this fall
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Old 07-07-2021, 05:42 AM
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I guess Lindros was in that category and didn't quite live up to it, he was very good but not the "Next One" as he was called. But it seems far fewer examples in hockey than other sports.

I guess taking all that money was a good idea at the time for McDavid, but man what a shame if it means he wastes the prime of his career on a mediocre team.
I'm bias, Pete, as I never missed a home game when Lindros played for the Oshawa Generals but due to injuries and the like, yeah, he most definitely had a shorter than normal career that definitely hurt his status in being one of the all time greats.

In all my life of watching hockey players come up, I've never seen the likes of the media attention that Lindros received.
Sure, the Quebec snub definitely played a huge part in that, as did his refusal to play for Sault St Marie, but the constant attention, the constant media, in your face attention this kid got was over the top, imo.

All that aside, he was definitely an exciting player to watch, the complete pkg.
He could score, he could pass, he could hit and of course he could fight. The complete package which hadn't been seen in years until he came along.
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I agree, Lindros could have been one of those if he wasn't injured/concussed. when healthy, he was unstoppable and a physical force more than any of the other greats. I remember one healthy game as a Ranger where he just picked a corner and scored, he had great hands too.
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1973 OPC "Funny Rings" set of 17 purchased this weekend at the National. Marked $125 and I think I paid $85 (or $5 each) Not much hockey at the show, and I heard the main guy Len was unable to cross the border from the Great White North. Maybe next year?
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Its been many years, but I finally found my Bobby Orr card. This was my dads favorite player so it is extra special.

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Its been many years, but I finally found my Bobby Orr card. This was my dads favorite player so it is extra special.

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1952 Parkhurst #15 John "Goose" McCormack leaves just three more cards to complete my set of course one of the cards I need is #58 Tim Horton RC which will cost me some $$$$$.
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I dont have a horton rookie but perhaps trading for one may be the way to go
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I dont have a horton rookie but perhaps trading for one may be the way to go
I'm at the point now in my collecting, that a two dollar reprint will be fine lol.

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Christmas present for me by me
2005 Black Diamond Sidney Crosby Quadruple Emerald rookie 2/25
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