Authenticating 19th century baseball cabinet cards

[drcy]

I don't know what photos belong to the OP and why he claims they are to be of.

I see two full cabinet cards, but don't know what is the claim about their supposed identity. The Gilbert & Bacon obviously is not of Jim O'Rourke.

[Detroit58]

Sorry for the poor presentation of my case. I’m a new member and I’m not very computer savvy. Another member did me a favor posting the photos. The Gilbert & Bacon, like it or not is Jim O’Rourke. The Montignani is also Orator Jim. The cdv is a Moses Fleetwood Walker cdv I sold in 2018 I used to explain my back story to the member who helped me post the photos. I will be the first to tell you gentleman you are my superiors in the computer world. What brings me to you is I need to know is there a baseball image authenticator?

[Bicem]

Contact member Bmarlowe1

He's extremely good at facial recognition and many AH's respect his opinion. Not sure what his fees are.

But first and more importantly, you need to be open to hearing the truth good or bad. Seems like you are already convinced on your "O'Rourke" photo even though that is clearly not him.

[oldjudge]

Gilbert & Bacon cabinets, as far as I know, only feature Philadelphia teams. Jim O’Rourke would not be on a Gilbert & Bacon cabinet. 100% that is not him. The other cabinet is, in my opinion, extremely unlikely to be O’Rourke, even though the Bridgeport location of the photographer is a plus for your case.

[Detroit58]

Each post clearly represents why there is a need for a third party authenticator. Some posts said clearly him, some said clearly not. I’m not a psychic, but I could of wrote these posts myself. I have a large list of cabinet cards. Some hall of farmers and some players nobody’s heard of. Some of them are uniformed some of them not. We could go through each and every one and guess what, some will say no doubt him and some no doubt not. I’ve done the FBI facial recognition on all of them, so yeah I’m pretty confident. Its not an opinion. Was your comment an opinion?

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Detroit58

Some posts said clearly him, some said clearly not.

Are you talking about the Gilbert and Bacon image? Who said that it is clearly O’Rourke?

[MINES_MINT]

Convincing a grading company to encapsulate a unique 19th century cabinet photo of a baseball player in street clothes is a very difficult task (even with proper supporting evidence) so I can understand your frustration.

With that being said, I honestly do not see a resemblance between Jim O'Rourke and the man featured in your Gilbert & Bacon photo.

Furthermore, in my personal opinion, the photo you say you sold in 2018 of Moses Fleetwood Walker also does not resemble the player in question.

To me the key to authenticating is to not push yourself to prove something to be authentic, but rather to try your absolute best to disprove its authenticity. Emotions and financial investment can often cause people to see what they want to see and that is simply not the mind set required for proper authentication.

[Detroit58]

Will somebody please address. Set your egos down and look at evidence. I have a list of cabinets and I can show this proof for everyone of them. My frustration is with a club full of egos. Look at the evidence I present. Address. I’m not talking about what your ego is telling you to say. Address my evidence if you are able