Authenticating 19th century baseball cabinet cards

[Detroit58]

Each post clearly represents why there is a need for a third party authenticator. Some posts said clearly him, some said clearly not. I’m not a psychic, but I could of wrote these posts myself. I have a large list of cabinet cards. Some hall of farmers and some players nobody’s heard of. Some of them are uniformed some of them not. We could go through each and every one and guess what, some will say no doubt him and some no doubt not. I’ve done the FBI facial recognition on all of them, so yeah I’m pretty confident. Its not an opinion. Was your comment an opinion?

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Detroit58

Some posts said clearly him, some said clearly not.

Are you talking about the Gilbert and Bacon image? Who said that it is clearly O’Rourke?

[MINES_MINT]

Convincing a grading company to encapsulate a unique 19th century cabinet photo of a baseball player in street clothes is a very difficult task (even with proper supporting evidence) so I can understand your frustration.

With that being said, I honestly do not see a resemblance between Jim O'Rourke and the man featured in your Gilbert & Bacon photo.

Furthermore, in my personal opinion, the photo you say you sold in 2018 of Moses Fleetwood Walker also does not resemble the player in question.

To me the key to authenticating is to not push yourself to prove something to be authentic, but rather to try your absolute best to disprove its authenticity. Emotions and financial investment can often cause people to see what they want to see and that is simply not the mind set required for proper authentication.

[Detroit58]

Will somebody please address. Set your egos down and look at evidence. I have a list of cabinets and I can show this proof for everyone of them. My frustration is with a club full of egos. Look at the evidence I present. Address. I’m not talking about what your ego is telling you to say. Address my evidence if you are able

[robertsmithnocure]

Originally Posted by Detroit58

Will somebody please address. Set your egos down and look at evidence. I have a list of cabinets and I can show this proof for everyone of them. My frustration is with a club full of egos. Look at the evidence I present. Address. I’m not talking about what your ego is telling you to say. Address my evidence if you are able

I am not sure what evidence you think you are presenting. These are clearly not the same player. Just look at the ear comparison that is listed above. Also, I am not sure where egos come into play in this.

Collectors see whom they want to see and it is difficult to change their minds. Same thing has happened with Real Photo Postcards and Vintage Photos recently too.

[bgar3]

I agree with Chris, authenticated or not, no one, at least not from here is going to pay top dollar for O’Rourke on that image. If you have already sold “Fleetwood Walker”, unauthenticated, why bother with these? The money you keep citing is not necessarily in 19th century stuff anyway, at least not to the extent it seems to be in more modern stuff.