Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[G1911]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

You are unaware that thousands of people die from the flu every year, especially seniors and those with immune system diseases? The fact that the flu can be lethal (more lethal than Covid if you are 95% immune to Covid) is completely new to you?

What a crock. The difference is that it wasn’t a virtue signal of moral superiority in 2019.

Of course I understand that, but tell me who in 2019 was suggesting I wear a mask to protect others? And if nobody was, why would I have had reason to come to that conclusion myself?

[G1911]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

So again, it’s not actually about saving lives, it’s about doing what you are told.

Nobody told you to wear a mask in 2019, because in 2019 we knew that surgical masks did not have much impact on airborne viral transmission of diseases, and it wasn’t a virtue signal event for social popularity points and moral posturing.

You are being willfully stupid now. Twisting and distorting is not valid argument. It isn't about doing what I am told, it's about doing what I am aware would help, and if nobody was discussing it, and they weren't, I had no such knowledge. It's pretty obvious that for better or worse with the pandemic there is an entirely different level of public discourse and awareness.

[Peter_Spaeth]

As to the topic of whether masks in fact help, I do have some skepticism, but so far I've been persuaded I should err on the side of they might given what I've read.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As to the topic of whether masks in fact help, I do have some skepticism, but so far I've been persuaded I should err on the side of they might given what I've read.

In 2018, the CDC said this about wearing a mask during flu season: “very little information is available about the effectiveness of face masks and respirators in controlling the spread of pandemic influenza in community settings.”

The flu has been around forever and yet “very little information is available" about the effectiveness of masks?

What changed from 2018 to 2020 that the CDC could have “very little information" to "follow the science"?

[G1911]

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

When you must consistently resort to ad hominems and ageism because you keep contradicting yourself, it’s usually a clue of something. You keep choosing to defend why I must wear a mask around vaccinated people who have less of a risk from Covid than people did from from the flu in 2019 but you didn’t have to wear a mask in 2019 with an appeal to the authority of the state. You didn’t have to then with similar risks because the state did not tell you too. You chose that argument, multiple times.

I haven’t called you stupid, haven’t said you are going downhill because you disagree with me, I haven’t demanded you do what I want and ignore your own thoughts, I haven’t criticized you for whatever age you are. It really brings out how respectful and caring about others your side is. Fire away, it’s very mature and strengthens your argument.

My bad on the ad hominems. From what I've seen of your generation though including my own family, the ageism is somewhat justified.