Returned cards from trimming scandal showing up on Ebay

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Well, I'm not sure if he still has a Net54 account, but you could message him. I know there are plenty of cards still circulating, and even FOR SALE IN THE VAULT. So saying that PWCC is not doing it, is kind of BS in the first place. But I figured I'd put his post out there, and then shoot it down.

Why is PWCC still selling any cards submitted by Moser? Surely they have a list of his cert numbers and can check any submission against them?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...90614&page=281

I thought Brent was going to create a website with all questionable cards... you know, to help the honest customers of theirs... like they enjoy doing. Maybe it's coming Monday.

The previous owner of the Johnson has messaged him.

[ALBB]

Just awful

[troutbum97]

Q: Doesn't this Speaker look short / trimmed?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...59.m1431.l2649

[troutbum97]

Q: This Red Cobb may have been the same "trimmed 5" from a few months ago - or, are my eyes playing tricks on me?

-Brian May

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...wAAOSw97BgBgYU

[steve B]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

Q: This Red Cobb may have been the same "trimmed 5" from a few months ago - or, are my eyes playing tricks on me?

-Brian May

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...wAAOSw97BgBgYU

Short yes, trimmed no.

How it got a 4 with that paper loss is another thing entirely.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by steve B

Short yes, trimmed no.

How it got a 4 with that paper loss is another thing entirely.

Could just be really old grading standards, but it could also be that the card was soaked improperly, got slabbed, then degraded over time.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

Q: Doesn't this Speaker look short / trimmed?

Bottom edge has a weird cut, slopes inward so quite possibly. Back paper loss today would get a 1.5 at most. Way overgraded. Card probably graded over 20 years ago based on the cert number.

Add: As to the Cobb, it's been in that holder for like 15 years, based on cert numbers. The Altered 5 was a Carolina Brights back and had much better centering.

[troutbum97]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Bottom edge has a weird cut, slopes inward so quite possibly. Back paper loss today would get a 1.5 at most. Way overgraded. Card probably graded over 20 years ago based on the cert number.

Add: As to the Cobb, it's been in that holder for like 15 years, based on cert numbers. The Altered 5 was a Carolina Brights back and had much better centering.

Thank you for clarifying.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

I think much more blame needs to be put on the TPG's who have graded altered/trimmed cards. Too bad the TPG's don't take the high road and actively buy back these outed cards as part of their guarantee. We all understand the grading process isn't perfect and humans make mistakes, so why not just admit to the mistakes and make the marketplace more secure by taking these out of circulation?

[2dueces]

Nothing ever happens. Big investigation. Everyone waiting with bated breath for the indictments, arrests and jail time. Everyone be patient they say. The law works slowly. Yeah bunch of BS.
So the results are the doctors laugh and continue to create more trimmed cards. Remember the big T206 auto scandal? Yeah all those forgers are in jail. Yeah right. Time passed. What is it 2-4 years now? Just buy a laser and auto pen and you’re in business. Like I said BS and only ones care are the saps that got took or stuck with the cards.

[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

I think much more blame needs to be put on the TPG's who have graded altered/trimmed cards. Too bad the TPG's don't take the high road and actively buy back these outed cards as part of their guarantee. We all understand the grading process isn't perfect and humans make mistakes, so why not just admit to the mistakes and make the marketplace more secure by taking these out of circulation?

Not trying to be a cyber stalker, but interesting take given the Jackie posted by Leon.