Returned cards from trimming scandal showing up on Ebay

[troutbum97]

Q: Doesn't this Speaker look short / trimmed?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...59.m1431.l2649

[troutbum97]

Q: This Red Cobb may have been the same "trimmed 5" from a few months ago - or, are my eyes playing tricks on me?

-Brian May

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...wAAOSw97BgBgYU

[steve B]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

Q: This Red Cobb may have been the same "trimmed 5" from a few months ago - or, are my eyes playing tricks on me?

-Brian May

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T20...wAAOSw97BgBgYU

Short yes, trimmed no.

How it got a 4 with that paper loss is another thing entirely.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by steve B

Short yes, trimmed no.

How it got a 4 with that paper loss is another thing entirely.

Could just be really old grading standards, but it could also be that the card was soaked improperly, got slabbed, then degraded over time.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by troutbum97

Q: Doesn't this Speaker look short / trimmed?

Bottom edge has a weird cut, slopes inward so quite possibly. Back paper loss today would get a 1.5 at most. Way overgraded. Card probably graded over 20 years ago based on the cert number.

Add: As to the Cobb, it's been in that holder for like 15 years, based on cert numbers. The Altered 5 was a Carolina Brights back and had much better centering.

[troutbum97]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Bottom edge has a weird cut, slopes inward so quite possibly. Back paper loss today would get a 1.5 at most. Way overgraded. Card probably graded over 20 years ago based on the cert number.

Add: As to the Cobb, it's been in that holder for like 15 years, based on cert numbers. The Altered 5 was a Carolina Brights back and had much better centering.

Thank you for clarifying.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

I think much more blame needs to be put on the TPG's who have graded altered/trimmed cards. Too bad the TPG's don't take the high road and actively buy back these outed cards as part of their guarantee. We all understand the grading process isn't perfect and humans make mistakes, so why not just admit to the mistakes and make the marketplace more secure by taking these out of circulation?

[2dueces]

Nothing ever happens. Big investigation. Everyone waiting with bated breath for the indictments, arrests and jail time. Everyone be patient they say. The law works slowly. Yeah bunch of BS.
So the results are the doctors laugh and continue to create more trimmed cards. Remember the big T206 auto scandal? Yeah all those forgers are in jail. Yeah right. Time passed. What is it 2-4 years now? Just buy a laser and auto pen and you’re in business. Like I said BS and only ones care are the saps that got took or stuck with the cards.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Nothing ever happens. Big investigation. Everyone waiting with bated breath for the indictments, arrests and jail time. Everyone be patient they say. The law works slowly. Yeah bunch of BS.
So the results are the doctors laugh and continue to create more trimmed cards. Remember the big T206 auto scandal? Yeah all those forgers are in jail. Yeah right. Time passed. What is it 2-4 years now? Just buy a laser and auto pen and you’re in business. Like I said BS and only ones care are the saps that got took or stuck with the cards.

Ask Mastro, Doug and Theo how their long investigation turned out. It took years but they didn't end up with happy faces. I doubt some of these trimmers and fraudsters end up with happy faces either. The FBI doesn't send 6 or more agents to the National to check out the cards and crappy venue food. (except the food at the Net54 Dinner....believe 3 agents made it there)_

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[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

I think much more blame needs to be put on the TPG's who have graded altered/trimmed cards. Too bad the TPG's don't take the high road and actively buy back these outed cards as part of their guarantee. We all understand the grading process isn't perfect and humans make mistakes, so why not just admit to the mistakes and make the marketplace more secure by taking these out of circulation?

Not trying to be a cyber stalker, but interesting take given the Jackie posted by Leon.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Not trying to be a cyber stalker, but interesting take given the Jackie posted by Leon.