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Old 01-17-2021, 07:02 AM
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I've never been shocked or outraged by a cut card. If done nicely, an autograph card or jersey can be a great addition to your collection. I met Eric Idle once and had him sign the back of my business card. I then commissioned it to be turned into a card and I am really pleased with the outcome:



Seems to me that the card should be tailored to the signature, not vice versa.

As for wardrobe cards, I do appreciate the 'democratizing' effect of them. I don't take pleasure knowing that some rich guy has a piece of clothing in his den: honestly, who cares? I know I will never, ever own a Bruce Lee 'gamer' so I was pleased to get something I could actually own:



I also bought one of those Lefty O'Doul jersey booklet cards that Panini made. I get to have a piece of a Lefty O'Doul uniform that I would never otherwise own.

Unfortunately, most of the cut cards the manufacturer makes are lazy efforts to cram a cut into a misshapen opening. They rarely work out as well as they should.
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I've never been shocked or outraged by a cut card. If done nicely, an autograph card or jersey can be a great addition to your collection. I met Eric Idle once and had him sign the back of my business card. I then commissioned it to be turned into a card and I am really pleased with the outcome:



Seems to me that the card should be tailored to the signature, not vice versa.

As for wardrobe cards, I do appreciate the 'democratizing' effect of them. I don't take pleasure knowing that some rich guy has a piece of clothing in his den: honestly, who cares? I know I will never, ever own a Bruce Lee 'gamer' so I was pleased to get something I could actually own:



I also bought one of those Lefty O'Doul jersey booklet cards that Panini made. I get to have a piece of a Lefty O'Doul uniform that I would never otherwise own.

Unfortunately, most of the cut cards the manufacturer makes are lazy efforts to cram a cut into a misshapen opening. They rarely work out as well as they should.
I bought a Kluzsewski booklet, auto and bat relic. It is nice. They display well. But for every good one, it seems there is also a poorly made one. I just always imagined these would be handmade with pride. But with every bad one, it appears there made without pride.

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This has been done with relics for much longer. Religious, fossil, meteorite, and plenty of other historical artifacts like flags, uniforms and documents. Preservation has always been secondary to maximizing revenue. This isn't going away and will likely only get worse.
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This has been done with relics for much longer. Religious, fossil, meteorite, and plenty of other historical artifacts like flags, uniforms and documents. Preservation has always been secondary to maximizing revenue. This isn't going away and will likely only get worse.
I hadn't considered that, but now that you mention it, that is correct. Relics of the Buddha and Christ are supposedly divided up between multiple locations. My college had a single page of an authentic Guttenberg Bible. I must say though, I haven't thought about fossils divided like that. Are you just talking about large fossil plates divided up and sold to maximize value. Or are you talking about famous individual finds - like a single T-rex?

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Are you just talking about large fossil plates divided up and sold to maximize value. Or are you talking about famous individual finds - like a single T-rex?
I'm familiar with these type of cards, and with Hollywood actors like Nic Cage fighting over skeletons.
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This has been done with relics for much longer. Religious, fossil, meteorite, and plenty of other historical artifacts like flags, uniforms and documents. Preservation has always been secondary to maximizing revenue. This isn't going away and will likely only get worse.
That makes sense. I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormon) and the first 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon is one of America's most expensive books - selling for around 80K last I checked. A couple years ago an independent seller
bought a copy for around 40K and was selling 530ish individual pages for $200/per. I'm not sure how it went but sadly a common practice among all interests. Pages with "key passages" were sold anywhere from $500-1500.

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Pulling apart stuff is a long-established rule. Pierce Egan's Boxiana books from the first part of the 19th century included copper plate engravings of notable boxers. They have been broken down for the engravings for a long time. The engravings are rag paper and do not suffer the same acid damage that pulp paper does; the book bindings are organic glues and often deteriorate first. This is an engraving of HOFer Dick Curtis from the 1820 original edition:



Pretty nice for 200 years old.

In 1840 Egan issued a compilation volume of prints, entitled Boxiana or Sketches of Ancient & Modern Pugilism. I bought and pulled apart a wrecked 1840 edition to get my collection of HOFers with no contemporaneous cards and photos from their careers.

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