I have NEVER understood why MODERN cards do this!!!

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Also annoying that it's more important his torso is vertical than it is to preserve the autograph. If they had made the autograph horizontal and let his body be diagonal the whole autograph would've fit in the window instead of ruining it.

[irv]

I agree.
A total asinine decision from Topps.

[Fred]

Look at what Topps did to a Release/Transfer document with Christy Mathewson's signature. It was a beautiful document and they cut it so that they could fit it in their card/holder. Crap, they should have made the card a redemption card and provided the full original document with a cert from what ever card company sold the chase card.

It's just sad to see these companies do this.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1610727185

[bobbyw8469]

That is appalling!

[Seven]

I absolutely hate it. It's taking priceless vintage artifacts and cutting them up in a way just to make more of a buck off of them. I know there's this one set of products that actually cuts down a letter from Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth and then sells the cut up pieces in boxes, and you have to hope the box you buy contains the cut signature. It's a disgrace.

[luciobar1980]

And the sig is cut off.

[doug.goodman]

There is another thread about a "Thurman Mun" card...

[GasHouseGang]

This was posted in the autograph section of the board. This went for $7995 in a recent Goldin auction and half of the signature is cut off. Here's the link:
https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=71142


Sorry Doug, I guess we were typing in the info at the same time.

[chlankf]

Originally Posted by Seven

I absolutely hate it. It's taking priceless vintage artifacts and cutting them up in a way just to make more of a buck off of them. I know there's this one set of products that actually cuts down a letter from Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth and then sells the cut up pieces in boxes, and you have to hope the box you buy contains the cut signature. It's a disgrace.

And the prices of the unopened boxes are crazy expensive. I keep wondering who would buy a card with a cut of a letter such as "some time" from a Cobb penned letter. Destructive practice. It no different than looting of archaeological sites. An item is found, sold into private hands and disappears from history. Only difference is now these wonderful, personal fragments of our pastime's heroes are ruthlessly destroyed for a huge profit. Angry Craig. Breathe.... Namaste...

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by chlankf

I keep wondering who would buy a card with a cut of a letter such as "some time" from a Cobb penned letter.

I recall seeing auctions where the offering was individual words clipped from documents handwritten by George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. If memory serves me right, in these cases the documents were surveyors' and legal documents that, in and of themselves, were not historically significant.

In those instances I didn't see anything wrong with it, because "no historical documents were harmed in making this movie," as it were, and it allowed collectors on smaller budgets the opportunity to own something in Washington's and Lincoln's handwriting.

[chlankf]

Originally Posted by Seven

I absolutely hate it. It's taking priceless vintage artifacts and cutting them up in a way just to make more of a buck off of them. I know there's this one set of products that actually cuts down a letter from Ty Cobb or Babe Ruth and then sells the cut up pieces in boxes, and you have to hope the box you buy contains the cut signature. It's a disgrace.

And the prices of the unopened boxes are crazy expensive. I keep wondering who would buy a card with a cut of a letter such as "some time" from a Cobb penned letter. Destructive practice. It no different than looting of archaeological sites. An item is found, sold into private hands and disappears from history. Only difference is now these wonderful, personal fragments of our pastime's heroes are ruthlessly destroyed for a huge profit. Angry Craig. Breathe.... Namaste...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324453091507

[conor912]

Junkie Robinson

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by Fred

Look at what Topps did to a Release/Transfer document with Christy Mathewson's signature. It was a beautiful document and they cut it so that they could fit it in their card/holder. Crap, they should have made the card a redemption card and provided the full original document with a cert from what ever card company sold the chase card.

It's just sad to see these companies do this.

https://www.net54baseball.com/attach...1&d=1610727185

Wow, that actually makes me physically ill to see it chopped up to fit into a card. Infuriating!

[T206Collector]

They'll never get my signed Shag Shaughnessy letter!!

[brob28]

I agree, that's garbage!