Another PSA mess up? major card - AA to 5

[Tyruscobb]

If they are all the same card, the latest version appears darker to me. The red appears darker.

The latest version is also missing the small white speck near Cobb’s ear. The A-A version shows a white speck near Cobbs left ear (card’s right side) while the latest one does not.

[Casey2296]

Such a shame, looked like a great card before. I wish people valued and paid more for wider borders. Wider the border, higher price for the card. That'd be hard to fake.
But I'm also a guy who thinks school teachers should get paid more than school administrators. Don't think either one of those is happening anytime soon.

[sb1]

What if nothing was actually done to it? 1st submitter gets a 4, he or the next owner thinks it's nicer, cracks and resubmits, gets an A. He or the next party that owns it, cracks and resubmits again, get a 5.

This happens all the time, cards are continually submitted, cracked and resubmitted just to get a better grade, without actually doing anything to the card. Not saying that is the absolute case here, as the card cannot reasonably be examined via scans. But on first glance it appears identical in all three holders.

After further review of the scans, the AA does appear to have a narrower right border....

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by sb1

What if nothing was actually done to it? 1st submitter gets a 4, he or the next owner thinks it's nicer, cracks and resubmits, gets an A. He or the next party that owns it, cracks and resubmits again, get a 5.

This happens all the time, cards are continually submitted, cracked and resubmitted just to get a better grade, without actually doing anything to the card. Not saying that is the absolute case here, as the card cannot reasonably be examined via scans. But on first glance it appears identical in all three holders.

After further review of the scans, the AA does appear to have a narrower right border....

Scott, I get the crack and resubmit game. But if PSA is an expert, then there is no way that the grades on a t206 red Cobb, Carolina brights, should range from a 4, to an AA, to a 5. At best it shows the total inconsistency of PSA’s product. At worst it shows their absolute incompetence. And, the fact that this belonged to David Hall at some point does not help.

[frankrizzo29]

I completely agree PSA was incompetent with this card.

Does the owner of this card know of these issues? And, if so, what does this person do about it? I'm sure PSA will not do anything about it. If they do a grade review, they're not going to admit to slabbing an altered card.

[sb1]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Scott, I get the crack and resubmit game. But if PSA is an expert, then there is no way that the grades on a t206 red Cobb, Carolina brights, should range from a 4, to an AA, to a 5. At best it shows the total inconsistency of PSA’s product. At worst it shows their absolute incompetence. And, the fact that this belonged to David Hall at some point does not help.

Chances are, the people looking at these, know less than you and I and about 50% of this board, about vintage cards. Just because they are grading cards does not make them an expert. They may have been doing this for only a few weeks or months, who really knows.

Many things can come out of a grading submission that will make you really shake your head, both good and bad. So yes, consistency is an issue. Take ten-twenty cards with the same numerical grade from the many years(decades) of grading and you will see a wide variance of appearances.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Such a shame, looked like a great card before. I wish people valued and paid more for wider borders. Wider the border, higher price for the card. That'd be hard to fake.
But I'm also a guy who thinks school teachers should get paid more than school administrators. Don't think either one of those is happening anytime soon.

I know people who already do this.

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